Dear dealers, anyone have a date schedule for mark changes, referring to porcelain.

[Paper Roses]

Import laws were initiated starting in 1890's. They changed several times over the turn of the century(1900).
I have a very large dinner service on which the marks are different. They started with only pattern name, Then to Nippon,changed to "Japan", then to Made in Japan, then to Noritake/Nippon, Made in Japan.
I'm going to try and sell this service(135 to 145 pieces) but I'd like to be able to explain the change in markings.

I bought this whole set in the 1970's but never had the need to know the dates but now I would love the info.
I googled it but could not find out the correct info.
If you sell china, perhaps you know when marks were changed and in what intervals. The last date on these pattern marks is about the 1920's.

Thanks to all.

[blm]

1. Didn't some stop IDing as Japan during WW2 and

afterwards to sell more as the demand plummeted? When they were forced by US to label Made in Japan or Made in Occupied Japan, I heard some went through other countries to maintain their value.

[Paper Roses]

6. Nothing is labeled "Made in Japan" or "Occupied Japan". It is earlier than that.

As I was researching an antique charger at the Peabody Essex Museum Library in Salem Ma, I found this pattern illustrated as a front piece in a research book I was reviewing. I know it dates very late 1800's to early 1900's. Since there are so many pieces in this dinner service, I have not gone to look at each piece to see the marks. The set is in mint condition with every piece marked with one or the other marks as I indicated.

I am going to visit a consignment shop next week to see if they can sell it. I thank those who suggested reference books but none of them are of a help. The marks are not signatures, they are printed marks or they cover marks later than relevant to this situation.

I have a list from an on-line seller, they had a long list of this pattern at ridiculous prices. I printed the list sometime in the 1980's. They sold out right away. The last time I checked , they had only one luncheon plate for sale. I won't contact them because I called several years ago and they offered me $3.00 for an item they had offered for $79.95 and I would have to pay shipping. I would never deal with them. Since they sold out right away, I bet they have a wait list for more of this pattern,

Wish me luck. Consignment is tricky, I have an appointment next week for them to review the pattern, the paperwork and pictures I have and check their terms.
Thank you for your input and that of others.

[blm]

2. Go to The Marks Project for info.

https://www.themarksproject.org/

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5. Thanks!

[multigraincracker]

3. I use to have this book/

you can order it on Amazon for $12.95


Miller's Antique Marks Paperback – Illustrated, November 5, 2013

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4. Anything marked Nippon us before 1921.

[Marthe48]

7. On fb there is a group called Collecting Japanese Ceramics and Arts

Susan Andacht has been a member, and there are other very knowledgeable experts and collectors in the group. I'm a member of that group, also a group called Talking Antiques, and another called Select Your Antiques. There are a lot of experienced dealers in the groups and I've gotten a lot of help from them. One other group I joined is What is This? Antique, vintage and unusual item. Identification. Since I'm naming the groups I'm in, one other is a fb group called Identify and Value My Paintings, and they too are helpful.

Hope you find what you are looking for. I had a set of Pearl Pottery flow blue, and it took me years to find the date of the mark.

[Paper Roses]

10. Thank you, I will search out these groups and see if I can find any info.

[Marthe48]

8. Do you know what company made the set of china?

Possibly you'll have to research the company history to find what you're looking for. I have several pieces of Takito and their marks change over time, as did Noritake.

[Paper Roses]

9. The only marks on the china ares as I listed in my original post. No company that I can find. n/t

[Marthe48]

11. A member of the Japanese Ceramics and arts sent a mark book.

Maybe it'll help you nail down the early dates

https://library.si.edu/digital-library/book/japanesemarkssea00bowe?fbclid=IwAR0Xddax9udggDwwXdIcr3nNUDfLioRByVYK69X4DyOrDvzp-_4wBjPItfk