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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:22 PM Nov 2015

Why Haven't CA Dems Reintroduced Single Payer for CA?

Back when Ah-nold was governor, the state legislature passed a single payer option for the state. Ahnold vetoed it. Later in his term, Ahnold said he had changed his mind and would sign such a bill.

Fast forward to today - the governor is a D and the state legislature is entirely controlled by Ds. So why hasn't a single payer option been reintroduced? Such a measure should fly through the legislature, and would surely be signed by Jerry Brown.

So what's the story?

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Why Haven't CA Dems Reintroduced Single Payer for CA? (Original Post) stopbush Nov 2015 OP
I don't know their reasons but if it is not in all 50 states TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #1
Single Payer Health Insurance Bill Orphaned in California Wilms Nov 2015 #2
SINGLE Payer means just ONE payer, no insurance companies, no tiers, every doctor 'in network' Baobab Mar 2016 #3
This is why Baobab Mar 2016 #4

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. I don't know their reasons but if it is not in all 50 states
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:33 PM
Nov 2015

there would be a doctor drain to other states. Single payer needs to be nation wide. It's kind of like other localized laws. DC has or had the most stringent gun laws in the nation but it did not stop guns from coming into the city for Virginia which had the most lax.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
3. SINGLE Payer means just ONE payer, no insurance companies, no tiers, every doctor 'in network'
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016

One plan, one payer, all the other healthcare everything is just one, and they pay all of the bills. the minte you change anything, especially letting the wealthy go somewhere else, or having 'supplemental' payers, also it has to be free, so you avoid having a punishment tier.. The whole idea is people go to the doctor when they get sick which makes it cheaper- Doctors have a fraction of the paperwork they do now and much smaller staffs.. Same with hospitals, they dont have to collect money - its a radically different world where money is not the determinant of care at all, in fact its not involved..

Also, thats the trade rules, to avoid privatization and the crapification and eventually, soon, globalization, that comes with it a services sector has to be free... (It also has to have predated the trade deal but lets ignore that for now, and assume the standstill starts when TiSA is signed, not in 1995)

You've been suckered in by the campaign - whomever runs it - it definitely exists - to confuse the public as to what single payer is.

One thing we know however, at least in 2006, Maine wrote an explanation of what was really standing in their way.

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