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Old Crank

(3,667 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 04:04 AM Mar 2023

Aven Armond, French cave

Sorry not for wine. These are from the cave at Aven Armond. Quite spectacular. the first person to see the cave, and survive, was lowered in on a rope with the only light being hand carried. That must have been fun. Photos hand held, flash not allowed, and braced against what ever. Shows also the limitations of the cheap scanner.





hmm bacon






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yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
2. I loved it too! (when I was younger and in better shape)
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 11:30 AM
Mar 2023

My knees would start yelling at me if I tried it at my age!! Now I have to limit myself to tourist caves - I still love being underground! (Even tight spaces)

My husband and I met at a Cave Research Foundation Expedition at Mammoth Cave National Park. We were regular participants until we moved to Texas so it's a part of our history. (Fun fact: CRF (is the only group mapping the system there which is now 412 miles)

Whenever we are traveling, we will visit any tourist cave we find.

Old Crank

(3,667 posts)
4. This is a tourist cave.
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 12:20 PM
Mar 2023

But very large. A few years later we did another bike tour and ended up at 4 different caves including Lascaux II.
Grand Roc, Le Roque St. Christophe, and Font de Gaume and Goufre de Padirac (this one is huge. Boat ride inside it to the major caves)

When we went on teh bike tour we didn't realize just how many caves we could see.

I've also been to the cave on Crete that is alleged to be the birthplace of Zeus.

alfredo

(60,082 posts)
10. I loved Squire Boone Cave before it became a tourist cave.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 07:14 PM
Mar 2023

It has a lot of good travertine. It's a pretty little cave.

ShazzieB

(16,636 posts)
5. What do these look like to you?
Tue Mar 7, 2023, 05:39 PM
Mar 2023


When I look at this, I see strips of bacon!

Silliness aside, these are great shots of what looks like an amazing cave with some very unusual formations. I've visited quite a few caves (all in the U.S., fwiw) and never saw anything like this or the fascinating and intricate structures in the other photos.

Old Crank

(3,667 posts)
6. Just above the photo
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 12:43 AM
Mar 2023

I wrote. Hmmm bacon.
I think the guides called it as such also but 15 years is a long time to remember that. I haven't made it into ant US caves. Would like to go but I think that i heard a while ago that there were problems with too many people at the cave in AZ. Disruption of the natural environment.

yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
8. depends on the cave you are thinking of. Karchner Caverns on I-10 east of Tucson
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:35 PM
Mar 2023

has not been over utilized. In fact, the two cavers who discovered it went straight to the landowner, told him what they found and the potential for development both good and bad. He decided to work with the state to create a state park. He and the state gov't along with the original guys who discovered it spent about 5 years getting it in the park system and preparing it for tourists. No One Knew about this cave outside of this tight group and believe me it is hard to keep secrets in the caving community.

So it has only been in operation about 15 years. The entrance is double walled with an air lock between. Also you have to disinfect your shoes going in to prevent spread of White Nose Fungus to the bats. It is beautifully lit, and well managed.

On the other hand, another cave not too far away (Colossal) is essentially dead due to high traffic and less than optimal care. It is still a pretty cave it just isn't going to grow any new stuff.

Mammoth Cave is of course heavily toured but with 400 miles of passage, most of it is quite pristine.

We were able to visit Altamira in Spain and it is fabulous! It had been so overtoured that an exact duplicate has been built and that is what you tour, unless you are part of a scientific group doing research. I think it was closed to the public the year after we visited. It was fabulous!!

Old Crank

(3,667 posts)
12. That might have been the one I read about.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:59 AM
Mar 2023

Good to know they are taking protective measures for the bats.

yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
14. Colassal is dry as a bone and very dead. Karchner is still very much a live cave
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 05:03 PM
Mar 2023

Pretty much all show caves are doing their utmost to fight white nose. Shoe dips, clean caving clothing and gear for exploration trips - the explorers can't wear anything into the cave that has been worn in another cave unless it has been washed and hosed down.

yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
7. very impressive cave bacon!! and it is lit exceptionally well.
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:21 PM
Mar 2023

One of the most beautiful caves anywhere is Caverns of Sonora in Sonora, Texas




yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
9. I wonder if the guides tell the same corny cave guide jokes in French?
Wed Mar 8, 2023, 06:38 PM
Mar 2023

I have probably toured 30 caves and I am convinced the guides have a corny joke book just for caves. I hear the exact same jokes everywhere.

Old Crank

(3,667 posts)
11. THey may
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 12:58 AM
Mar 2023

But my french isn't good enough.
Many also like to turn off the lights to show you that it is really dark in a cave....
I wouldn't have guessed wtih out the demonstration.

yellowdogintexas

(22,292 posts)
13. oh total darkness is absolutely a requirement on every cave tour!
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:58 PM
Mar 2023

I don't think I have ever been on a cave tour without the total darkness!!!

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