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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:51 AM Jun 2013

Anyone here ever shot events/seminars?

I'm shooting a seminar-type event tonight set-up as a favor by a friend (to see if it's something I'd like to learn more about in the future and hopefully provide the org some better photos than snapshots). I'm struggling over the best lens to use.

I have a 35mm f/1.8, a 50mm f/1.8 and a super slow (starts at f/4 and goes to f/5.6) 80-200 zoom. I also have an off-camera flash I don't know how to use (I know enough that if I bring it, I should bounce and diffuse it but that's it). Since I shoot a D5100, that makes the lenses 1.5 times longer than their stated length (so, 52.5mm, 75mm, 120-300mm).

Tips and advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Anyone here ever shot events/seminars? (Original Post) justiceischeap Jun 2013 OP
For someone that likes to travel light Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #1
ive shot sxsw rdking647 Jun 2013 #2
Thanks all! justiceischeap Jun 2013 #3
I used to shoot weddings. intheflow Jun 2013 #4
I guess I should think of it as I do street photography justiceischeap Jun 2013 #5
Many times Major Nikon Jun 2013 #6
Okay, I've studied your post several times (and I'll have to study it several more times) justiceischeap Jun 2013 #7
It's been a long time since I've owned a SB-26 Major Nikon Jun 2013 #9
Oh, the whole umbrella thing is for other purposes justiceischeap Jun 2013 #10
Here's how it works in a nutshell Major Nikon Jun 2013 #11
I have done a couple of things along this line Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #8

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
1. For someone that likes to travel light
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jun 2013

I hate to say, take it all, unless you know the room you're shooting, how the room is setup, the room lighting and if they are going to allow flash photography.

Other than that get to the site before the event starts, get a feel for the room and take test shots.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
2. ive shot sxsw
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jun 2013

i found the best lens to use is the fastest lens. sxsw doesnt want flash and the lighting sucked so i had to crank up the iso and shoot wide open. I used a 70-200 2.8 mounted on a tripod.

depending on how far away you are the 50 may be your best choice. the 80-200 may be to slow but id bring it anyway. get there early and set up with the zoom on your tripod. that way you can see if it will be fast enough

at sxsw i ended up shooting most of the time at iso's of 1600+



intheflow

(28,473 posts)
4. I used to shoot weddings.
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jun 2013

And the requisite receptions afterward. The one thing I would recommend has nothing to do with equipment. My recommendation is to get as close to the subject as possible. If that means kneeling in front of the front row, yes. Do it. If it means standing in front of the front row, do it if you can do it like a jack-in-the-box (kneel/stand/shoot/kneel). Shoot from all sides of the "stage" - where ever the presenter is speaking from - to get a variety of angles. Really and truly, I found I could use automatic settings and an indifferent flash unit and get great shots just by being as close as possible to my subject.

If you think this might seem intrusive and obnoxious, just think about watching video of music concerts or live stand-up acts. If you look you see a million camera operators moving all over the stage, but you really only notice them if you look. People are there to see the act (seminar presenter). Also, wear the most neutral, comfortable clothes you own. Black works well. Think of yourself as a stagehand in a minimalist theater production. You have to blend in with the shadows. You will be doing a kind of Jedi mind trick: this camera is not what you are looking at.

Of course, you'll want to give the speaker(s) a heads-up that you'll be shooting up close and personal. That way they can prepare themselves mentally to not be distracted by you. It makes them a partner in Jedi mind trickery.

Also - this was many years ago, like, 20 - but I don't remember using bounce with that off-camera flash. Seems to me when I did, the shots came out very dark because those halls are usually dark, or have fluorescent lights that make people look green or yellow, and have really high ceilings. I would try using a direct flash. Of you could try mixing up bounce and direct, to cover all bases. Remember, it's not portrait photography, it's more like documentary photography.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
5. I guess I should think of it as I do street photography
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:17 AM
Jun 2013

without the street and with the knowledge that I'm taking photos instead of sneaking them.

Thanks for the tips, appreciate it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. Many times
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jun 2013

I don't really know what you mean by off-camera flash. I'm assuming this is just a hot shoe mountable flash which has the capability of being used off camera. Unless you have a flash bracket you can use, I recommend using it on the hotshoe provided you can bounce. I'm assuming it has i-TTL capability, but this may be a poor assumption.

If I had your choice of lenses, I would probably use the 50/1.8 provided you can get fairly close to your subjects (within 10' or so). If you are bouncing the flash, do not use a diffuser (I hate them anyway). Unless you have a 20' ceiling or better, just aim the flash straight up and if your flash lacks a bounce card, just affix a small white piece of paper about the size of a post-it note to the backside of the flash. This will reflect enough light to produce a catchlight in your subjects' eyes. Be careful about using wide aperture settings, especially if you are shooting multiple subjects or you will most certainly have only one of them in focus. I like to shoot aperture priority (which I use for just about everything) and about f/4. At 50mm, f/4 and 8' subject distance, this gives you a little more than a foot of DOF which isn't bad for multiple subjects provided they are roughly the same distance away. If you are shooting at f/1.8, you get less than half the DOF which can make nailing the focus tricky in the types of situations you'll encounter. f/5.6 will give you 21" of DOF @ 8' subject distance and is even more forgiving.

As far as exposure settings go, I'm not sure what capabilities your speedlight has. You should be OK if you use auto-ISO and aperture priority. Basically what you want is the ambient light (without the flash) to be about 2-3 stops down from what your flash provides. This allows the ambient light to fill and keeps your subjects from looking well lit in a sea of blackness. It also keeps you from prematurely draining your flash batteries and decreases recycle times. With an i-TTL capable flash, Nikon will take care of you reasonably well in this regard. Here's how I adjust auto ISO. Remove the flash from the camera. Put the camera in full manual exposure mode. Set your aperture to what you think you'll be using the most. For the 50mm lens, I would set the shutter speed to 1/80 or so for this situation. Take a few test shots and adjust your ISO until the histogram shows about 3 stops underexposed. Now set your auto-ISO maximum sensitivity to this value with a minimum shutter speed of 1/80. Set the camera to auto-ISO, aperture priority, and put the flash back on. Make sure you take extra batteries for the flash.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
7. Okay, I've studied your post several times (and I'll have to study it several more times)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jun 2013

but here's what info I can provide. I have a Nikon SB-26 flash and a D5100 (now I'm being repetitive). I don't think the SB-26 has i-TTL, just TTL.

And I think you're suggesting I set my camera (using the 50mm lens) at f/5.6 with a minimum shutter speed of 1/80. And of course, taking a shot without the flash to get the room underexposed by 3 stops. I'm confused on one point, do I set my flash to the f/5.6 (or whatever f stop I'm at) or is that what the TTL does? Sorry for the questions... I started looking into off-camera flash lighting (taking the SB-26 and putting it on a stand with an umbrella and using triggers) but then I decided I was getting ahead of myself and should probably learn to shoot better photographs first.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. It's been a long time since I've owned a SB-26
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jun 2013

However I'm pretty sure there's no TTL with your camera. You'll want to use the SB-26 in auto mode for this situation. I don't remember how well the SB-26 communicates with the newer Nikon bodies. You may have to manually set the f/stop in use by the camera (mandates use of aperture or manual mode on your camera), or if the camera is able to tell the SB-26 what f/stop it is using. You should be able to tell by adjusting your aperture on the camera and see if the flash follows. Either way the flash must have this information to work in auto mode. Basically how it works is the flash has a sensor on it that will automatically shut off the flash when enough light has been received. In order for it to work the flash must know the aperture setting so it can calculate the correct amount of light. TTL works the same way, but instead the sensor is inside the camera itself, so the aperture setting is irrelevant (again TTL is not going to work with this camera/flash combination). The SB-26 will also need to know the ISO setting, so you may also have to set this up manually on both the camera and flash. To make things simple, just put the flash in auto mode and make sure the ISO and aperture settings match the camera. Aim the flash straight up (assuming you have a ceiling to bounce from) and pop up the bounce card on the SB-26. Take some test shots and make sure they come out properly exposed. So long as you stay within the auto range for the settings you are using, everything should get properly exposed. The SB-26 is a pretty powerful flash. With a fairly high ISO setting (say 400 or 800) and f/5.6 or so, you will get at least 30' of range I would guess which is more than enough for your 50mm lens.

Using your flash off camera with an umbrella probably isn't a great idea unless your subjects are all at a fixed location. Even then you will need the umbrella fairly close for it to be effective. You are much better off bouncing the flash off the ceiling or a wall if you can. This keeps you mobile and able to take pictures of most anything.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
10. Oh, the whole umbrella thing is for other purposes
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jun 2013

A friend wants me to shoot his wedding later this summer. So, I'll, hopefully, be using that for portraits.

Thanks for the rest of the info. Appreciate the time you put into it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. Here's how it works in a nutshell
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013

Umbrellas and softboxes are generally used to soften light. In order for light to be soft, you need a larger light source relative to the subject distance. In other words, the bigger your reflector, the farther away from the subject it can be. Bouncing the light off a ceiling gives you a huge reflector. With a smaller light source, like an umbrella or worse still direct flash, you need to be much closer before soft light is rendered. So umbrellas work great in studio situations where you can position them within a few feet of your subject and aim them precisely. I don't like diffusers because all they really do is scatter your light without giving you a larger light source.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. I have done a couple of things along this line
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jun 2013

and I try to be behind the audience or off to the sides and use a zoom lens, to stay out of the way as much as possible and I never use a flash. I try to record the event not get in the way of the presentation, the speaker or attendees (sometimes I get good shots, sometimes I don't, but I try not to intrude into the moment). Every situation is different and as stated elsewhere in this thread you light will be a big factor.

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