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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:52 PM Jun 2013

Does anyone here not like HDR?...

Absolutely no offence intended to anyone who is entering this months photo contest nor anyone else who has posted HDR photos. Many of your shots are very nice and this is a personal preference thing, not a critique of anyone's work.

I personally don't mind HDR photos if they are very subtle. When I say subtle I mean so subtle that you wouldn't know they are HDR. To me HDR should be used to bring out detail in photos that are hard or otherwise impossible to capture, where the dynamic range is so wide that no setting can possible capture what the eye can see. In fact I want to get into this end of HDR photography. Here is an example of one that I don't mind so much, though even here I think it's a bit over done in the rubble at the bottom:



Instead however HDR is often used for a different artistic effect. When the HDR settings are truned way up you get a sort of painterly effect or a photoshop filter effect. These shots are more along the lines of this fad:







These types of images have a halo effect going on, everything is super saturated and painterly like. It reminds me of a few photoshop filter type effects.

Again this is all personal preference, please don't take offence. But I rather dislike this last type of HDR that seems to be so popular nowadays, anyone else?

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Does anyone here not like HDR?... (Original Post) Locut0s Jun 2013 OP
Yeah, it's a tad too hipster in application, for the most part. X_Digger Jun 2013 #1
i like the second effect rdking647 Jun 2013 #2
It just depends on the image. bluedigger Jun 2013 #3
I really Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #5
That's a big pet peeve of mine. bluedigger Jun 2013 #6
It looks more like perspective 'distortion' than unlevel groundloop Jun 2013 #8
The picture Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #9
Oh hell, we're not even talking about the same image..... NEVER MIND groundloop Jun 2013 #10
LOL Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #11
It's one tool in the toolbag Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #4
Haven't tried it yet, Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #7
The more I learn... ramapo Jun 2013 #12
I really like the bridge. JohnnyRingo Jun 2013 #13
I agree with you. Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #14
Whenever I see overcooked HDR Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #15
It CAN be very good, but usually isn't. sir pball Jun 2013 #16
I'm still old school Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #17
don't understand really what is meant by HDR Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2013 #18
Not exactly true Stevenmarc Jun 2013 #19
It's just another tool used in Digital Photography postatomic Jun 2013 #20

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
1. Yeah, it's a tad too hipster in application, for the most part.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jun 2013

I've seen some *really* well done shots, and some.. well.. you gave good examples.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
3. It just depends on the image.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
Jun 2013

I don't have anything against the process, per se. Of the examples you posted, I like the third the least, and the last the most.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
5. I really
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jun 2013

Dislike the third one on so many levels and speaking of level, they could have taken a second to straighten out the shot while they were overcooking it.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
6. That's a big pet peeve of mine.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

Considering you are using a tripod (in theory) there's just no excuse. I have a FB friend who keeps posting pics with the ocean sloping... Level that shit out!

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
8. It looks more like perspective 'distortion' than unlevel
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jun 2013

Vertical lines from the building slope upward to the left on the right side of the photo, and upward to the right on the left side of the photo. It was probably taken from relatively close (I'm guessing that it would be impossible to photograph that building from far enough away to eliminate this).

As far as HDR photos, some I like and some I don't, it just depends on the particular image. What I really don't like are the shots where there's that halo around the intersection where the images were blended. I assume that's from relatively unsophisticated software with no cleanup afterwards.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
9. The picture
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jun 2013

Really only required a simple 1.7 degree adjustment to straighten the whole thing out after I did a little test on the image. Furthermore if there is any type of perspective distortion it would appear to be telephoto compression, the building is easily a football field away from the camera if you look at the people in relation to the scene and that the path opens up into a courtyard which is seriously compressed, distance doesn't appear to be the issue for its cattywonkiness.

I'm not so fast to blame the software's unsophistication in this case considering the other issues with the shot, there's a whole lot of user error.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
10. Oh hell, we're not even talking about the same image..... NEVER MIND
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jun 2013

For some reason the wonderful internet connection where I work blocks certain image hosting sites. I pulled up this thread on a public wi-fi network and see the one you're talking about now and agree with everything that's been said about it.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
11. LOL
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jun 2013

I hate when that happens. And now I see what you're talking about, now if they had a tilt-shift lens.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
4. It's one tool in the toolbag
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jun 2013

And I never use it as a final result but as a part of my workflow when it's necessary.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. Haven't tried it yet,
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 08:10 AM
Jun 2013

And in no hurry to do so. It really does nothing for me, I guess I am too much amateur or too lazy, but I will skip it for now.

ramapo

(4,588 posts)
12. The more I learn...
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jun 2013

The more I like it.

Prior to this month's contest, I felt HDR was just a special, somewhat annoying, effect. Now I see that it can be very subtle and that it can be a great help under difficult lighting conditions. And sometimes the more intense effects are appropriate. Of course this is all dependent on the image and personal preference.

I've only been playing with HDR for a week or so and have found it offers a lot of choice. I am in awe of the variety of images submitted thus far in this month's contest. They range from the subtle to the intense and I like them all.

My biggest problem, besides getting the basic technical steps down, is working through the almost endless options offered by the software. I've found it difficult to decide what, and how much, of an effect I like.

I just got my new D5200 with auto-bracketing, replacing my somewhat water-logged D3100, so that should make the shooting part a tad more efficient. And I just saw that my new iPhone 5, replacing my somewhat water-logged iPhone4, has an HDR setting. So I guess it is going mainstream.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
13. I really like the bridge.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jun 2013

No matter how it was edited, I think it was done to great effect and made a great photo absolutely outstanding.

No offense.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
14. I agree with you.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jun 2013

I am really, really unfond of that over processed look. Like you, I think a little bit is fine, but so much of what you see today is over the top.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
15. Whenever I see overcooked HDR
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013

All I can think of is the line in Spinal Tap:

"The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven"




sir pball

(4,742 posts)
16. It CAN be very good, but usually isn't.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 08:42 AM
Jun 2013

When I first saw it probably six or seven years ago I was blown away; back then you had to do it painstakingly by hand, layering, masking and blending four or 5 images to get just the look you wanted. I think that contributed to the quality of the early images - the process was so complicated and skillful that it weeded out most of the snapshooters. Now that you can just turn a setting on in your camera or play with a few popup menus in Photoshop, the average quality has gone down quite a bit. Not that there isn't still a lot of good HDR stuff out there, but the noise floor has been raised so dramatically the signal is getting almost impossible to find IMO.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
17. I'm still old school
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:43 PM
Jun 2013

on that one to some degree. My final HDR output is never my final product but it does become a layer that I work with to get the final product. However, I do have to say that the current software, especially NIK is a great time saver from the good old days.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,574 posts)
18. don't understand really what is meant by HDR
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jun 2013

and yes I do know what the acronym means. What I'm trying to say is it just seems like photos that have been edited to amplify saturation or add color that wasn't there in the first place.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
19. Not exactly true
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:13 AM
Jun 2013

HDR when used correctly can get the image your camera has the ability to capture much closer to what your eye can actually perceive but a lot of people take it to an extreme.

A good article about Eye vs. Camera

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/cameras-vs-human-eye.htm

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
20. It's just another tool used in Digital Photography
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jun 2013
Same as a Painter that uses a different type of brush. I can understand why HDR is popular with some. In this day and age of fully automatic photography (shoot everything and anything) it's hard to come up with anything that hasn't been done a bazillion times.

I use it as a tool. There are times when I take a pic with the idea of using HDR to process it. I don't love it or hate it. It is what it is. During the last photography boom of the 40's there were many alternative developing processes that caused many traditional photographers to grab their pitchforks and torches. I'm sure there were even a few that thought Ansel Adams "cooked" his photos.

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