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Here is one reason why more people are going Micro 4/3 or to other mirrorless cameras. (Original Post) alfredo Jul 2012 OP
I LOVE my Sony NEX 5N Speck Tater Jul 2012 #1
I considered Sony, but I got a great deal on Olympus. alfredo Jul 2012 #5
These days I rarely carry the big boy camera around. Stevenmarc Jul 2012 #2
I rarely print, and when I do, 8X10 is as big as I go. I don't need a professional grade alfredo Jul 2012 #8
Most of my Stevenmarc Jul 2012 #9
Mine just go to family and friends, so 8X10 is all I need. alfredo Jul 2012 #13
Size matters. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #3
For street photography, there is virtue in not looking professional. alfredo Jul 2012 #6
Looks nice Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #4
If you have thousands invested in lenses for one format, it is best to stay with it. alfredo Jul 2012 #7
Agreed Sherman A1 Aug 2012 #17
M43 with a pancake lens, or cameras like the alfredo Aug 2012 #18
That's how I feel, too. Blue_In_AK Aug 2012 #34
Want Richard D Jul 2012 #10
It's a good want Stevenmarc Jul 2012 #11
It's going to sell really well. alfredo Jul 2012 #14
Now the ball is in Olympus' court. Let's see if the XZ-1 replacement can alfredo Jul 2012 #16
I've seen some really fantastic pictures taken with 4/3rd cameras Major Nikon Jul 2012 #12
And it seems they are able to get more performance from smaller sensors. Look at what they alfredo Jul 2012 #15
If you like APS-C sensors, you can get a rDigital Aug 2012 #19
I almost went with the Samsung NX10 but the wide lens choice alfredo Aug 2012 #20
You're right about the lenses. M4/3 is a hot ticket right now with multiple players in the game rDigital Aug 2012 #21
I really like my Sigma 19mm. It is also made for the NEX platform. alfredo Aug 2012 #23
Well balanced. I like it. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #25
Thanks. That lens is sharp from corner to corner, and no vignetting. alfredo Aug 2012 #26
Love the look but hate the electronic viewfinders GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #22
Get an Oly or a Panny with a 14mm lens, then get an OVF for a 28mm lens. alfredo Aug 2012 #24
For a hobbyist or studio photography they make sense nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #27
Yeah, the 5100 is a great camera. I have a friend with one and it impressed me. alfredo Aug 2012 #28
I know, why we considered it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #29
I have the option to stay home when it rains, so weather seal is not an issue. Maybe alfredo Aug 2012 #30
To be fair, the Canon system including the 5d can do a lot of things the smaller camera cannot. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #31
I've read good things about the G1X, but the OVF is of the same quality as on other G models. alfredo Aug 2012 #32
I use all sizes of cameras, from point and shoot to full frame. juxtaposed Aug 2012 #33
I can't tolerate shoulder straps anymore due to alfredo Aug 2012 #35

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
5. I considered Sony, but I got a great deal on Olympus.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jul 2012

I would jump at the 5n or the 7 if I could afford it.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
8. I rarely print, and when I do, 8X10 is as big as I go. I don't need a professional grade
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:07 PM
Jul 2012

camera to lug around. M4/3 is perfect for my needs.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
9. Most of my
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:56 PM
Jul 2012

Exhibition prints are 16x20 or larger, with the right software properly placed in your workflow you can go fairly large without the image falling apart.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
3. Size matters.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jul 2012

Small cameras are great for carrying. Big cameras are great for shooting. Says the guy with big hands....

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
6. For street photography, there is virtue in not looking professional.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:50 PM
Jul 2012

For me, weight was an issue due to an injury.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Looks nice
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jul 2012

I will however hang onto my DSLR's. I am happy with them and need to spend no more money on this part of my life.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
7. If you have thousands invested in lenses for one format, it is best to stay with it.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:05 PM
Jul 2012

I can't handle the strap over my shoulder or around my neck, so I am restricted to wrist straps. Old age and arthritis related weakness dictated the mirrorless format.

I have long lusted over this sweet machine but it is way out of my budget. Tis better to hone my skills, than spend money.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
17. Agreed
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 04:37 AM
Aug 2012

I will just hang onto my DSLR's and upgrade the bodies & lenses as required. They work for me and I certainly understand the weight issue you describe. I also carry P&S's with me as back up camera's and to use when the big ones are just not appropriate.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
18. M43 with a pancake lens, or cameras like the
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:19 AM
Aug 2012

Sony RX100 are perfect as the replacement camera. It's hard to blend in with a tricked out DSLR.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
11. It's a good want
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jul 2012

My friend just got his and I was pretty impressed with it when I played with it this weekend.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
16. Now the ball is in Olympus' court. Let's see if the XZ-1 replacement can
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 11:59 PM
Jul 2012

respond with something as good, if not better.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. I've seen some really fantastic pictures taken with 4/3rd cameras
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 08:48 PM
Jul 2012

IIRC, I think the sensor is about 30-40% smaller than APS-C found in most DSLRs, but it's many times larger than most point and shoot cameras. So while you might loose a bit of enlarging or cropping power that a DSLR offers, but you are still head and shoulders above a point and shoot.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
15. And it seems they are able to get more performance from smaller sensors. Look at what they
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 11:55 PM
Jul 2012

have been able to do with the Nikon V-1.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
19. If you like APS-C sensors, you can get a
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:20 AM
Aug 2012

Samsung NX-100 for around $200-$300 right now. I bought mine brand new in clearance a few months ago at BB. I purchased a 30mm f/2 prime for it and now it's my everywhere camera. It looks like a point and shoot, but it's fully featured with good image quality.

Another advantage of the little cameras is you attract so much less attention to yourself.
Taken with NX-100
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/rdigital/6986500125/][img][/img]

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
20. I almost went with the Samsung NX10 but the wide lens choice
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:02 AM
Aug 2012

Of the M4/3 platform tipped the scales in that direction. I also liked how the Oly felt in my hand. I couldn't find a Samsung dealer anywhere, and I wasn't going to buy blind. I'm a wrist strap user, so it had to be comfortable in my hand.



Forgot to add: nice nighttime performance. M4/3 is somewhat lacking in the dark.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
21. You're right about the lenses. M4/3 is a hot ticket right now with multiple players in the game
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:28 AM
Aug 2012

and they're all producing lenses.

Thanks : )

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
23. I really like my Sigma 19mm. It is also made for the NEX platform.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
Aug 2012

EPL-1 using the Sigma 19mm 2.8.




The flag looked real good in B&W, but I wanted the viewer to see that the tree is dying.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
26. Thanks. That lens is sharp from corner to corner, and no vignetting.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:28 PM
Aug 2012

I've noticed little chromatic aberration. Damn nice for $200.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
22. Love the look but hate the electronic viewfinders
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:02 PM
Aug 2012

I really don't like to shoot and compose via that small screen and the whole time lag thing.

Even with my Fuji E-900 I don't use the screen to shoot, just the viewfinder.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
24. Get an Oly or a Panny with a 14mm lens, then get an OVF for a 28mm lens.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. For a hobbyist or studio photography they make sense
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

and I mean this, a LOT OF SENSE. But if you need to do, as we do, professional journo photography, I wish I could afford the 5D to be honest, but the Nikon 5100 is a wonderful camera with a large sensor (which is what matters with these suckers at this point)

So in many ways it is truly what you are going to use it for.

(Yes, we had the debate, we ALMOST went for the Sony, since it does video the best of all cameras in the market) I looked at a Q as well, for the size factor, not enough lenses and the sensor would really disappoint in what we are doing. (I mean in the extreme settings, city councils, whatever... a point and shoot is more than enough as well)

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
28. Yeah, the 5100 is a great camera. I have a friend with one and it impressed me.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:59 PM
Aug 2012

You can get near pro performance from an under $1,000 camera now, and might only lose a bit in low light situations were a flash is forbidden.

Look at these images taken with the RX100.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/08/08/the-sony-rx100-shoots-seal-in-concert-by-barry-burris/

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. I know, why we considered it
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:17 AM
Aug 2012

The other night at Chihuahua valley we had the D300 and the 5100. It is the dust and smoke and other extreme conditions.

Mind you, the 5100 is not as well sealed as I'd like (Why someday will graduate to full format sealed) but it's better sealed than the Sony.

City council, concerts...that is not really a concern.

And why I tell people, use what you have.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
30. I have the option to stay home when it rains, so weather seal is not an issue. Maybe
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
Aug 2012

someday I can get the weather sealed Olympus OM-D, but it isn't a priority.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
31. To be fair, the Canon system including the 5d can do a lot of things the smaller camera cannot.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 03:21 PM
Aug 2012

But that being said, those capabilities are useless if the camera is on a shelf at home. I was tired of missed photo opportunities so I just bought a Canon G1x. It's pretty small, has excellent specs and has an optical viewfinder. Lack of an optical viewfinder is an absolute deal killer for me. I haven't taken it out for a soin yet but I like how it feels in my hand. It rather reminds me of the Olympus 35RC I had in the 70s. I took some of my best shots with that camera and I hope for similar results from the G1x.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
32. I've read good things about the G1X, but the OVF is of the same quality as on other G models.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

I had a G10 and loved it, but the OVF was too small for me. I wear glasses and that made it more difficult.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
33. I use all sizes of cameras, from point and shoot to full frame.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:37 AM
Aug 2012

Today I was lugging around four 1. Canon 1D-MK3 b/c of 10 frames per-second bursts, 2. Canon 5D for the full frame sensor, 3. An Olympus point & shoot for small videos, 4. EVO 4G for geo-tagging.
After 6 hours walking around in 90 degree heat I'm pretty beat, but we're having a pretty big event here in Tampa in about a week.

evo 4G image

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