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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:06 PM Dec 2020

I'm going through the archives to update the SmugMug page



This is from a trip to the gulf coast a few years ago. The lighting was horrible with high contrast direct sun and the challenge of exposing for a white bird. I ran it through post and arrived at this. The thing is I tend to over do as I don't always know when to stop and go 'blind' to the incremental changes.

So, I'm asking for a critique. Please weigh in and give an opinion about the outcome? Is something artificial about it? How obvious are the changes?
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I'm going through the archives to update the SmugMug page (Original Post) flamin lib Dec 2020 OP
This is a stunning photo, my dear flamin lib! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #1
Dad's 'attitude' is reflective of flamin lib Dec 2020 #2
Overall, well done. Nothing offensive. Two very small nits, and a what if Pobeka Dec 2020 #3
Thanks, just the kind of things I'm looking for! flamin lib Dec 2020 #4
You're welcome. I am curious to see the original. Pobeka Dec 2020 #5
here ya' go flamin lib Dec 2020 #6
That confirms it. IMHO you made very good choices in PP. Pobeka Dec 2020 #7
Thank you. flamin lib Dec 2020 #8
LOVE IT! HAB911 Dec 2020 #9
Thank you. flamin lib Dec 2020 #10
On my calibrated monitor it looks great! ManiacJoe Dec 2020 #11
Thanks, that's the goal. Improve, not change. flamin lib Dec 2020 #12
AfterShot3 is Corel's software, right? ManiacJoe Dec 2020 #13

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,659 posts)
1. This is a stunning photo, my dear flamin lib!
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:18 PM
Dec 2020

I do not see anything artificial in your beautiful photo. It works!

It's actually a fantastic portrait of a bird family: Dad on top, observing the world, and the Mom and the chicks below. The placement of the birds is perfect. You could not have gotten a more perfect photo if you'd even tried. They are superbly arranged!

This definitely belongs in your website.



Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
3. Overall, well done. Nothing offensive. Two very small nits, and a what if
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:24 PM
Dec 2020

Possibly the sharpening on the neck of the upper bird is a little too much -- there is a bit of a black halo obvious between the neck and the branch.

I see a little chromatic aberration on some of the sticks in the nest.

Neither of those are deal breakers at all, abstractions of the 3rd order...

What if -- the exposure of the top 1/2 of the upper bird was about 1/8th of a stop lower?

I feel your pain on a photo like this -- in the PNW the dynamic range is massive -- preventing blowouts from the sky or snowfields and still capturing shadow detail is a major challenge with my little rx100ii and its 1 inch sensor.

What I see here is a very commendable job as far as I can tell.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
4. Thanks, just the kind of things I'm looking for!
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:50 PM
Dec 2020

I improved the black halo by increasing pixel count (resizing) from 16meg to 28meg. Still there but the black pixels are half the size making the halo half the size.

Not much I can do about the CA. Had I shot it in RAW there is a lens correction for that. I shot this with the 75-300 consumer lens from Oly before I upgraded to the 300f4 PRO which is from a whole 'nother zip code. Still, not too bad for a $500 lens.

I tried burning the neck area of the top bird, but there's just nothing there to recover. It just gets muddy.

All that said, you didn't mention the major changes I made, so I guess I didn't go TOO far

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
5. You're welcome. I am curious to see the original.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 04:11 PM
Dec 2020

It's always instructive to see how other folks do PP.

What I look for, generally, is does the photo look natural? This definitely does look natural. No super obvious PP halos, or distracting areas, or areas that had been cloned to correct another distraction in the photo.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
8. Thank you.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 04:48 PM
Dec 2020

And I made those choices because people like you helped me grow as an image maker.

If we look critically at our work it improves. If not it stagnates.

Constructive criticism is always welcome, invited or not.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
11. On my calibrated monitor it looks great!
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 08:09 PM
Dec 2020

None of the edits are "obvious".
Well done with the exposures for the birds and the dark background.
If you are not shooting raw files, this is a great example of why you should.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
12. Thanks, that's the goal. Improve, not change.
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 08:14 PM
Dec 2020

If ya' can see it, it's too much.

Shooting raw + now and using aftershot3 to edit. This is quite old and sitting idle because I didn't have the skill set.

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