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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:43 PM May 2015

The REAL Bottom Line on Michigan's Proposal 1 of 2015: Just Say NO!

"Over course of the last month, there has been plenty of Mudslinging in the Michigan Proposal 1 of 2015 debate.

From large pieces of asphalt being smashed into the window of a "mock" school bus, paid for at some point or the other by taxpayers dollars. To the drumbeat of some Democrats calling other Democrats and Progressives strongly against Proposal 1 "Teabaggers".

Also, confusing some voters by using a Ex-Senator from Michigan - Carl Levin in a commercial supporting of Proposal 1 claiming he is the current Senator from Michigan."


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The REAL Bottom Line on Michigan's Proposal 1 of 2015: Just Say NO! (Original Post) LovingA2andMI May 2015 OP
Interestingly, the linked article reads like a hit piece on Democrats. longship May 2015 #1
The Truth Hurts.... LovingA2andMI May 2015 #2
I am voting NO on it. Period! So are all my Democratic friends. nt longship May 2015 #4
Oh....and one more Point... LovingA2andMI May 2015 #5
There's too much bloat in the proposal. Also? Novara May 2015 #3
Exactly!!! LovingA2andMI May 2015 #6
Ok, I said "no" JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #7

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Interestingly, the linked article reads like a hit piece on Democrats.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:58 PM
May 2015

There is absolutely no mention of the Republicans who contrived this situation, with their Gerrymandered districts and all.

Nevertheless, I will be voting "No" on Prop 1.

Also, does anybody here think it is appropriate to link to "Independent Underground" from this site? Independent my ass!

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
2. The Truth Hurts....
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:38 PM
May 2015

About the highly ineffective strategy of ignoring Detroit and the core Economic Policies of this Governor that resulted in a large disconnected base who did not participate in the November 2014 General Election.

Okay.....and you probably blame the Michigan voting populace for this lost, correct?

Furthermore, just curious.....Did you have the same reaction when a known blogger called Progressives voting against Proposal 1 Teabaggers?

Maybe you need to look that one up. Google is your friend...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
5. Oh....and one more Point...
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:55 PM
May 2015

Last time we checked Gary Peters is a Democrat and Senator --- and said this about Proposal 1:

"The Legislature should have done their jobs," and passed legislation to raise money to fix the state's crumbling roads and bridges, instead of sending a sales tax proposal to voters, Peters, D-Bloomfield Township, said after touring a plant in Lansing.

"What we have is a failure of leadership from the governor and from the Legislature," Peters said.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/02/18/senator-gary-peters-blasts-road-funding-plan/23634973/


Notice Senator Peters said, "THE LEGISLATURE". One would assume ANY member of the LEGISLATURE that voted for Proposal 1 to be placed on the ballot, correct?

So why are other Democrats walking in "lock step" with Governor Snyder on Proposal 1? Why did some Democrats vote for this "TieBarred" piece of hot mess late last year (as it took Democratic votes to pass it with Immediate Effect)?

By the way, here is the House vote count detail:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(saf1uej2xm32rsllr1g1r2lp))/documents/2013-2014/Journal/House/htm/2014-HJ-12-19-087.htm

And the State Senate vote count detail:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(saf1uej2xm32rsllr1g1r2lp))/documents/2013-2014/Journal/Senate/htm/2014-SJ-12-19-085.htm

With that, we are DONE|. Nite-Nite!

Novara

(5,841 posts)
3. There's too much bloat in the proposal. Also?
Fri May 1, 2015, 07:43 PM
May 2015

I resent my sales tax being raised because the legislators couldn't do their damn job and work out how to fund road improvements by collecting proper and appropriate taxes. You know, taxes the wealthy can afford to pay, not some poor schmuck without a car who can't really afford to pay more sales tax on his shitty crappy salary.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. Exactly!!!
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:09 PM
May 2015

The overarching point of the piece is Proposal 1 is a REGRESSIVE Tax Increase. Regressive Tax Increases always hurt folks in the Middle and Lower classes. Which is why it is baffling so many House and Senate Democrats sided with their respective as in Elected Officials -- Republican colleagues -- and voted to place this Regressive Hot Tiebarred Mess of a Proposal on the ballot?

And that is the Bottom Line!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
7. Ok, I said "no"
Sat May 2, 2015, 01:00 PM
May 2015

Absentee ballot was submitted a few weeks ago.

This is how Republicans try to raise taxes without appearing to raise taxes.

A regressive tax at that.

I gotta admit: the "Pro Prop 1" commercials are pretty slick.

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