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Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:50 PM

question, please: Can Governor Whitmer fire that west Michigan sheriff ?

Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf, that is who I am referring to. The sheriff who seemed to back the conspirators.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/10/michigan-sheriff-spotted-at-rally-with-men-charged-in-scheme-to-kidnap-kill-governor/

While being asked about the situation in an interview Leaf said, “It is just a charge, and they say a plot to kidnap and you got to remember that. Are they trying to kidnap? Because a lot of people are angry with the governor, and they want her arrested. So are they trying to arrest or was it a kidnap attempt?”


Thanks for entertaining my question and my first time in your forum !

Steve

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Reply question, please: Can Governor Whitmer fire that west Michigan sheriff ? (Original post)
steve2470 Oct 10 OP
no_hypocrisy Oct 10 #1
d_r Oct 10 #2
steve2470 Oct 10 #4
d_r Oct 10 #7
steve2470 Oct 10 #9
catbyte Oct 10 #3
steve2470 Oct 10 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 10 #5
LovingA2andMI Oct 10 #8
steve2470 Oct 10 #10
LovingA2andMI Oct 10 #11
rownesheck Oct 10 #12

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:52 PM

1. Don't know if she can, but the sheriff more or less confessed that if

he found out she had been kidnapped or knew about the plot, he'd do nothing to stop it.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:52 PM

2. sheriff is

usually a county elected position. You don't have to have any experience if the people in the county will vote you in. You aren't an employee of the state but the county. So no, she could not fire him.

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Response to d_r (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:59 PM

4. in Florida, apparently the governor can

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/11/new-florida-governor-suspends-sheriff-over-school-massacre.html

The Republican governor flew to Fort Lauderdale three days after taking office to remove the Democratic sheriff, appointing a former police sergeant to serve as acting sheriff. Gregory Tony, 40, worked for Coral Springs police for 12 years before leaving in 2016 to start a company specializing in active-shooter training. He is the first African-American to serve as Broward’s sheriff.

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Under Florida law, the governor can suspend elected officials for criminal activity, misfeasance, incompetence or neglect of duty.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:00 PM

7. I didn't know that

I wonder if it is in Michigan also

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Response to d_r (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:02 PM

9. fwiw...

https://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/2018/02/governors_order_recall_are_the.html

JACKSON, MI -- If Jackson County Sheriff Steven Rand is believed to be the "multifaceted bigot" a recent lawsuit accuses him of being, and the public loses faith in him, there are only two possible ways to force him out of office.

Short of his resignation, it would require a removal order issued by the governor or a successful recall election.


article goes into more details further down

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:58 PM

3. Nope. Sadly, the only people that can fire that jerk are the people in Barry County.

And, judging by what I know of Barry County, he has a good chance of staying right where he is.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:59 PM

6. sorry to hear that ! nt

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:59 PM

5. In most places the sheriff is an elected official.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:02 PM

8. Kinda....

The Michigan Constitution does allow a sitting Governor to remove a sitting elected official for SPECIFIC reasons. The last time it was attempted was with former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, who resigned before the verdict was issued on his removal from office by former Governor Jennifer Granholm.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:04 PM

10. I am in Florida, so this is none of my business but...

I hope the Sheriff really regrets his remarks.

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:12 PM

11. Let's Hope....

Barry County is pretty rural so unless someone of his same Republican Party runs against him, the chances he's leaving office anytime soon is slim. Plus, he might have just been re-elected (as Michigan's Primary season is in August - and County Sheriff's run every four years) -- so he might feel as if he is "safe" to say what he disgusting said.

Now, the Sheriff can be Recalled starting six months from the date of his next term (assuming it starts in November 2020), however someone in Barry County would have to start it by having the petition language approved by the State Board of Canvassers, gather 25% of the number of total votes in the last election on the petition signatures of registered voters within the County AND vote him out in a recall election.

As you can tell, Recalling a Sitting Elected Official is not an easy hill to climb, however, if there is a determined group of Citizens, who knows.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:19 PM

12. He should be fired

because his name is Dar.

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