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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:32 PM Oct 2016

Stewart Mills leads Rick Nolan by 4 points

Tom Hauser of KSTP TV tweeted:

"KSTP/SurveyUSA: Stewart Mills (R) leads Rick Nolan (D) by four points, 45% to 41%. 14% undecided. Race wide open."

"Also in MN 8th District, Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton 47% to 35%."

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
2. Consider that KSTP is owned by Hubbard Broadcasting,
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:41 PM
Oct 2016

the owner of which, Stanley Hubbard, is an ardent Trump supporter. I have seen another poll (now I can't find it) that shows Hillary ahead in that area - not sure about the odious Stewart Mills. I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in a KSTP poll.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
4. If the metric is yard signs between Two Harbors and the Twin Cities,
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:47 AM
Oct 2016

it's Nolan in a landslide. I saw very few Republican signs. At the least, Republican voters seem to be embarrassed to identify themselves as the dumb asses they are.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
6. Along 35? There are only ever a couple of large Republican signs. What does it look like driving
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:58 AM
Oct 2016

through the actual towns of Chisago County? That's where we have problems. And there are way too many Mills signs on the East Range for my comfort.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
7. There are some big signs on 35, but I saw very few Mills signs
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:19 AM
Oct 2016

London Road in Duluth is always a barometer, with the houses on the lake side trending republican and the houses on the upper side DFL. Nolan wins there by 10 to 1. All up the shore, to almost Gooseberry, Nolan totally dominates the yard sign game. Slimey Stuart, like Trump, doesn't have much of a ground game. His ads try to blame Nolan, inexplicably, for the US returning money to Iran. The money was to payback Iran for Iranian deposits that the US froze in 1979. But facts don't matter to Mills.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
8. As I said, the East Range, which should be a gimme, has lots of Mills signs. He's pushing hard in
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:19 AM
Oct 2016

Grand Rapids as well.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
10. Because Trump - who has sent so many jobs to other countries and uses foreign steel in his buildings
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:54 PM
Oct 2016

will bring jobs back to the Range.

What are those people thinking?

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
11. They've spent a lot of time listening to DFLers talk about how much they hate mining.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:03 PM
Oct 2016

The mining narrative has not done the party any favors in some pockets up here.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
5. KSTP often leans right on its polls, but it's true, this is a tight, terrible race.
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:57 AM
Oct 2016

I dread waking up and having the country celebrating an HRC win while we in the 8th are faced with Mills. Duluth will have to turn out hard. The mining/water issue hasn't helped either inside or outside the party as well, I'm sure.

70 percent of this poll was landline, 30 percent was cell phone. I know this district trends older, but I'm not sure that's truly representative. Still, the DFL needs to bust its ass on this one.

question everything

(47,476 posts)
9. The same Tom Hsuser who "analyzed" the ads against Nolan and against Bonoff
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:35 PM
Oct 2016

and "concluded" that they were "mostly true." If he had analyzed the other ads - I've not seen them.

We watch KSTP at 5:00 PM since we are at home then and since they include many national and international news with hardly any sports - unless there is the season opener of someone. This is the only time we watch local news.


geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
13. I saw that episode of A Tissue (that's what I call his program)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:55 AM
Oct 2016

They had the GOP ads as mostly true and the DFL ones as false.

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