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forest444

(5,902 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 07:51 PM Jun 2015

Report: Many Mississippi politicians tied to group that radicalized Dylann Roof

Ashton Pittman
Deep South Daily, June 20, 2015.

A surprising number of Mississippi politicians have ties to the white supremacist organization that radicalized Dylann Roof, the gunman who killed nine black churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday night. A list of state leaders with ties to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) includes U.S. Senator Roger Wicker and former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour.

The Council describes itself as a group organizing for “the interests of European-Americans” and describes black people as a retrograde species. “Mississippi is toting a load of fat blacks on welfare,” the Council’s website once read. “Though disgust is a natural reaction when some blubbery welfare queens buys her pork chops and cream pies with food stamps, remember that the government is subsidizing this gluttony.”

On another occasion, the CCC railed against gay people in an editorial. “If the South seizes upon queer marriage and beheads that serpent, then a new era for States Rights will commence,” the Council wrote. “By the Grace of God, queer marriage may be the petard upon which Brown v. Topeka (the 1954 U.S. Supreme Court decision that desegregated public schools), and all other pernicious civil rights regulations, will be blasted down the memory hole.”

While both of those quotes were reported on in 2004, the CCC continues to use similar rhetoric today. The blog for the Mississippi Council of Conservative Citizens includes headlines from this decade such as, “Niggers Stir Up Racism in Pearl High School,” “Blacks fluck [sic] or have to cheat to pass test,” and “Military Homos” (in response to the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell).

So who exactly are the Mississippi politicians who have ties to the white supremacist organization? The list of politicians in Mississippi who have participated in CCC events, compiled by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2004, includes 23 Mississippi current and former Mississippi politicians. Of the 23 listed, 15 still hold elected office in Mississippi today.

At: http://www.deepsouthdaily.com/2015/06/many-mississippi-politicians-tied-to-group-that-radicalized-dylann-roof.html
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Also in the CCC were former Governor Kirk Fordice and former Sen. Trent Lott, as well as most white Deep South congressmen until the infamous Thurmond farewell dinner in 2002 put them in the spotlight - proving yet again that sunlight is indeed the best disinfectant.

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starroute

(12,977 posts)
1. I just googled this up
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jun 2015
https://crookedcrosses.wordpress.com/tag/council-of-conservative-citizens/

May 30, 2013

Uh…Oh!!! It seems that Nikki Haley – you know that somewhat air-headed southern belle who is Governor of South Carolina – had to engage in some damage control this week. Now, she didn’t get caught with her bloomers down, or anything like that, however, when it became public that Roan Garcia-Quintana, a member of a special steering committee to re-elect the Dixie Darling, was, in fact a board member of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a hate group of the racist variety reminiscent of the White Citizens Council.

Now, Roan Garcia-Quintana is a Cuban-American, but denies being a Latino and claims to be a descendent of the Spaniards who settled Cuba. When faced with the news that he had been ‘outed,’ Roan responded, ““Is it racist to be proud of your own heritage? Is it racist to want to keep your own heritage pure?” . . .

In addition, it was revealed that Roan runs an anti-immigration group called Americans Have Had Enough. The group claims to be fighting the “Illegal Alien Invasion.”

Once it became clear that there was no covering any of this up, Nikki Haley’s campaign gave him the boot and issued a statement claiming, “we were previously unaware of some of the statements [Garcia-Quintana] had made, statements which do not well represent the views of the Governor.”
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. shameful person
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jun 2015

disgusting in his ass kissing. Must be pretty light skin. He's like a Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, just no principle or integrity at all in my book

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
2. And creeps like these howl for states rights.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 08:47 PM
Jun 2015

Hell no.

It's about the Rights of all citizens of The United States of America.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Mississippi fat cats like Haley Barbour are the ones living large off of the public dole.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:03 PM
Jun 2015

How much tax dollars did they all soak up on BS contracts? This is where the real money goes and blaming the poor, whom you keep poor and uneducated, is how you distract.
Just a bunch of corrupt "Good ol boys!"

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. It is perhaps more prevalent now in the south than it was in the 50's and 60's
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015

You just don't see it in the open. The merchants will gladly take the money from the poor blacks. But in their minds "The south shall rise again". That is why Walmart, Tyson, Stephens, AT&T, and the list goes on forever are located in the south. The poor white man knows that their is something below him and that is the poor black man. That makes the poor white man feel entitled.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
5. And the poor white feels threatened by the fact that white soon will no longer be the majority race
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:27 PM
Jun 2015

Probably terrified that the sins of their ancestors & themselves will return to THEM

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
6. The reason I want Bernie is we have had way too many southern or souther sympathizer presidents
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jun 2015

lately. I don't count Jimmy Carter in that group though. Just think, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush. We don't need another southern or southern leaning president for a while.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
10. We get so little democracy from the ground up.
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jun 2015

We get so much corporatism from the top down. Just one more "Sterling" example of how much the corporate enablers respect others input, almost as much as they respect our lives.
It is no accident things are the way they are.
There are those who invest in change and those who invest in nothing changing.
One holds scars from battles for the least, one holds stock in WalMart.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
12. I already didn't like haley barbour. Only difference now is - I have yet another reason to
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 10:29 PM
Jun 2015

feel that way.

I think we should try to spread this around. So more people know about it. So it's out in the open. Where the sunshine is. So more people will know about it. So these assholes can't walk around like pure-hearted America-lovers. Well, they AREN'T ANY SUCH THING if they support or defend the CONfederacy or anything about it. They're America-haters and traitors. They're guilty of TREASON and shouldn't hold ANY elected office whatsoever.

Let's keep this one on the front burner.

We have to make sure that ANY "romance" with the CONfederacy is bolted, epoxied, welded, and laminated to HIGH TREASON and hatred of America. It has to equate to the complete LACK of patriotism. It has to be rendered 100% UNpatriotic. If you're for the CONfederacy, then you are UN-AMERICAN. Seems to me we need to work to help as many people as possible start associating the support or defense of anything CONfederacy-related with TREASON and hate of America. You are UNPATRIOTIC to the Nth Degree if you support or defend or somehow try to excuse away the Confederacy. It has to be made NOT OKAY. Just as the bad guys reframed and reshaped the public mindset on liberals, and turned the very word "liberal" into a dirty word - uttered more often than not with a curled lip. It has to be turned into an obscenity. We need to drive home that this "it's our heritage" crap is complete bullshit, and that "heritage" is NOTHING to be proud of.

No one is pointing out that the truth about the CONfederacy is they wanted not just to abandon this country and turn their backs on it and renounce it and their citizenship, but wanted to rip it up, physically, to tear it apart, to undo the first word of the very name of our country - the "United States of America." That is about as unAmerican as you can get, seems to me.

WHY shouldn't we point that out? WHY shouldn't we put the apologists ON THE SPOT? Just drill down a little bit when they start defending and insisting it's okay and it's noble and it's their "heritage" - why isn't anyone asking - "WHY are you proud of that? It's the most hideous thing in the world! To be willing to break away from this country and GO TO WAR with it because you wouldn't be allowed to own slaves anymore? THAT IS HIDEOUS!!!!! And THAT'S what their wonderful precious almighty CONfederacy was - that they love so damn much and try so hard to keep alive. It should be asked of them, point-blank - WHY are you so hellbent on keeping something as awful as that alive? They should be put on the spot. The CONfederacy should be spoken of, written about, and cast in that kind of ultra-negative light. It should be spoken of and portrayed publicly as something horribly negative. ALWAYS. The fact that it's not, that it's somehow been rendered romantic from some misty, foggy, floral-scented "good old days" kind of imaging and framing, is really a crime. And a sin.

WHY shouldn't we speak frankly about what the CONfederacy is all about is ripping America up and destroying her - just so YOU don't have to be told you can't own slaves anymore. "It's economic..." BULLSHIT. It was about SLAVERY and a HUGE multi-state hissy fit because they weren't going to be able to own slaves anymore. It is the complete absence of, and opposite of, patriotism or love of America. I don't know how they even have the gall to put their hands over where the human heart would ordinarily be and pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. If they love and honor their CONfederate "heritage," then they're UN-American, they hate this country, and they're TRAITORS. And to support and defend the CONfederacy is to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Gumboot

(531 posts)
13. Brilliant post above ^^
Sun Jun 21, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jun 2015

That is eaxctly the way to go. Corner them and frame your question very specifically about why they love and want to preserve that 'heritage' crap so much... if it is nothing more than a heritage of hatred, ignorance and treason?

I tried this out earlier today in the supermarket parking lot, and the pale little runt with a swas-sticker on his beat-up truck had no answers for me. None.

I pointed my cellphone camera at his truck as he drove away, just to lean on him a little more. I thought he deserved to feel he was being harrassed.

Now if we all did stuff like this... Shine a light on the bastards. All of 'em.

Thank you again CaliMary, for your eloquence. You have quickly become my favourite DUer!


calimary

(81,238 posts)
16. Corner the CONfederacy! Hey Gumboot, that's pretty damn good!
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jun 2015

That's a nice touch! YOU are eloquent, too! And thanks for the kind words, btw!

I just find myself wondering if most of these folks even grasp WHAT it is they're celebrating and honoring and romancing. The very fact that they've sanitized it enough with the - "had nothing to do with slavery. This was ECONOMIC. The "War of Northern Aggression" was about ECONOMICS. Bullshit. I see they found other ways to word it and phrase it to sanitize it and obscure the facts so they don't have to get their hands dirty. They don't have to deal with the reality - what REALLY happened. Embroidering the whole idea with that whole "but they LIKED being slaves! Life was GOOD for them! They WANTED to stay slaves!" SHEESH. Just another attempt to rewrite history and mask what really happened and minimize the grizzly parts and make it all not-so-bad. Render it harmless and even fun. Make it okay.

Well, I think they need to be shown that there really is NOTHING here to feel romantic and wistful about, to wish you could go back to those "good ol' days." Lipstick on a pig - on STEROIDS! Lipstick on a pile of shit, really. There was nothing "good" about those "good ol' days." Let's grow up and get real about it, shall we? Isn't it about time? Quit changing the subject and distracting and obfuscating.Quit AVOIDING THE ISSUE. These are great great grandsons and great great granddaughters of that era and I get the feeling that this is really all they know, all the awareness they have (or that they've been ALLOWED to have) - gotta accentuate the positive! Well, the problem here is that there is not much positive to accentuate. Not much positive to outweigh the HUGE grievance that overrides all those foggy pretty pastel "memories." I'm sure they didn't hear at their grandma's knee about actual slavery and what was done and what was condoned and what was excused away as - just "economics." Nice effort to tweezer out the good parts and just keep those.

It's like tweezering out a splinter, keeping and actually treasuring and caring for the splinter, and throwing the finger away.

It's like a bunch of kids in second grade forcryingoutloud!!!

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
14. This should be very useful as opposition points to those Republicans who have received donations
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 03:02 AM
Jun 2015

and seek re-election on the national, state, and local levels.

Surely Democratic staff will be aware of such donations, even though some Republicans will say they didn't know and seek to return the ill-gotten money.
And we, the Democratic electorate, will use means available to us to get out that damning message re donations from the Council of Conservative Citizens.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
15. OOOooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhh!
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jun 2015

Let's find a way to PIN this on 'em. Oh REALLY??? You're getting funding from THEM????? Indeed? Let's look at who they are, shall we? Let's talk about that. Let's talk about what they advocate, what they've written? It's on the internet but few of us even knew it existed before now. Let's make sure the whole world SEES and KNOWS it, then, 'eh? No little bubbling boil in obscurity where only your private little club knows and can savor and share it. OUT IN THE OPEN with you!!! Bring EVERYBODY'S eyes and ears in on it. Let's see how great it is, now, 'eh? Let's see how it stands the test of sunlight.

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