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Wed Oct 29, 2014, 11:06 PM

 

What are your feelings on the Redistricting panel proposition?

I'm mixed. I think the process needs to be reformed but if legislators pick the panels, I am sure it's still going to lead to politicized gerrymandering especially on the Puke's part? I am not sure which way I should vote on this? Input appreciated.


http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20141022/state-ballot-proposition-on-legislative-redistricting-panel-focus-of-debate-in-new-paltz

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Reply What are your feelings on the Redistricting panel proposition? (Original post)
Liberalynn Oct 2014 OP
hrmjustin Oct 2014 #1
Liberalynn Oct 2014 #2
hrmjustin Oct 2014 #3
Smarmie Doofus Oct 2014 #4
Liberalynn Nov 2014 #7
Agony Nov 2014 #5
Liberalynn Nov 2014 #6
Agony Nov 2014 #8
hrmjustin Nov 2014 #9
Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #10
Nite Owl Nov 2014 #11


Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 09:00 AM

2. Thanks for the link

 

I am kind of leaning towards no at this point after reading that. It sounds like there are too many flaws. If this is in place, then there will be even less of an incentive to address problems in the future.

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Response to Liberalynn (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 09:05 AM

3. I think I might just vote no so that they could have an improved question in 2015 or 2016

 

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Response to Liberalynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 07:18 AM

4. Common Cause says NO.

 

Seems like most of the NYS hacks in Albany say YES.

Take it from there.

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:31 PM

7. Thanks

 

I am going to vote no.

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Response to Liberalynn (Original post)

Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:24 PM

5. Zephyr Teachout included this statement about Prop 1

in an email on Wednesday. I asked for clarification of her position on this but haven't gotten a reply yet.

"Another critical vote that deserves your attention is Proposal 1, a sham of an amendment which would enshrine gerrymandering in New York’s constitution. Make sure you vote NO on Prop 1."

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Response to Agony (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:30 PM

6. Thank You

 

I will definitely will vote no on this then.

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Response to Liberalynn (Original post)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:05 PM

8. NYCLU sent this email today - Vote NO on Prop 1

This Tuesday, vote NO on Prop. # 1


TWEET THIS: I'm voting NO to Prop 1 and YES to democracy in New York with @nyclu! #noprop1NY

This Election Day, New York voters will be asked to do more than cast their ballots for governor. You’ll also be asked to pass judgment on a constitutional amendment that changes the way election districts are redrawn every 10 years.

Proposition 1 will have lasting implications that could be bad for voters and bad for democracy.

That’s why the NYCLU is asking you to vote no on Proposition 1.

In a democracy, elections should be fair contests between candidates. But in New York, politicians have for years rigged elections by changing the shape of their districts to pack in voters who will keep them in office. That’s why so many incumbents stay in power.

Proposition 1 appears to remove politicians from the election district equation by creating a “Redistricting Commission” to perform that task. But it’s a sham: Under the proposal, the politicians whose careers are at stake will keep the final say on how district lines are drawn.

Proposition 1 just makes a bad system worse. As a New York Times editorial put it, the proposed constitutional amendment is “not a reform. It is another way to maintain the status quo, and does not deserve voters’ support.”

That’s why I’m asking you to vote no on Proposition 1 this Tuesday. It’s on the back of your ballot. Just flip it over and vote no. Tweet it!
Sincerely,


Donna Lieberman
Executive Director
New York Civil Liberties Union

P.S. Looking for where to vote on Tuesday, November 4? Find your poll site here.

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Response to Agony (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:11 PM

9. This co firms my feelings on thid and I will vote no.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 04:04 PM

10. I'm voting no on that one, too, after asking some questions

I was tempted to vote yes after the crappy job they did redistricting me just in time for the last election. There are two additional propositions, took this test and it looks like I'm in favor of them both, so I'm planning to vote yes on two and three...

http://www.isidewith.com/new-york-voter-guide

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Response to Liberalynn (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:32 AM

11. Voting No

on prop 1. It's more of the same. The independent board sounds better, keeps the pols to of it.

Prop 2 seems ok, leaning yes

Prop 3 the money needs to go to other thing like smaller classes and hiring more teachers. What this does is spend a lot on expendable items, so what happens in 3-5 yrs when they are out of date?

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