New York
Related: About this forumWhat are your feelings on the Redistricting panel proposition?
I'm mixed. I think the process needs to be reformed but if legislators pick the panels, I am sure it's still going to lead to politicized gerrymandering especially on the Puke's part? I am not sure which way I should vote on this? Input appreciated.
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20141022/state-ballot-proposition-on-legislative-redistricting-panel-focus-of-debate-in-new-paltz
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)I am kind of leaning towards no at this point after reading that. It sounds like there are too many flaws. If this is in place, then there will be even less of an incentive to address problems in the future.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Seems like most of the NYS hacks in Albany say YES.
Take it from there.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)I am going to vote no.
Agony
(2,605 posts)in an email on Wednesday. I asked for clarification of her position on this but haven't gotten a reply yet.
"Another critical vote that deserves your attention is Proposal 1, a sham of an amendment which would enshrine gerrymandering in New Yorks constitution. Make sure you vote NO on Prop 1."
I will definitely will vote no on this then.
Agony
(2,605 posts)This Tuesday, vote NO on Prop. # 1
TWEET THIS: I'm voting NO to Prop 1 and YES to democracy in New York with @nyclu! #noprop1NY
This Election Day, New York voters will be asked to do more than cast their ballots for governor. Youll also be asked to pass judgment on a constitutional amendment that changes the way election districts are redrawn every 10 years.
Proposition 1 will have lasting implications that could be bad for voters and bad for democracy.
Thats why the NYCLU is asking you to vote no on Proposition 1.
In a democracy, elections should be fair contests between candidates. But in New York, politicians have for years rigged elections by changing the shape of their districts to pack in voters who will keep them in office. Thats why so many incumbents stay in power.
Proposition 1 appears to remove politicians from the election district equation by creating a Redistricting Commission to perform that task. But its a sham: Under the proposal, the politicians whose careers are at stake will keep the final say on how district lines are drawn.
Proposition 1 just makes a bad system worse. As a New York Times editorial put it, the proposed constitutional amendment is not a reform. It is another way to maintain the status quo, and does not deserve voters support.
Thats why Im asking you to vote no on Proposition 1 this Tuesday. Its on the back of your ballot. Just flip it over and vote no. Tweet it!
Sincerely,
Donna Lieberman
Executive Director
New York Civil Liberties Union
P.S. Looking for where to vote on Tuesday, November 4? Find your poll site here.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,259 posts)I was tempted to vote yes after the crappy job they did redistricting me just in time for the last election. There are two additional propositions, took this test and it looks like I'm in favor of them both, so I'm planning to vote yes on two and three...
http://www.isidewith.com/new-york-voter-guide
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)on prop 1. It's more of the same. The independent board sounds better, keeps the pols to of it.
Prop 2 seems ok, leaning yes
Prop 3 the money needs to go to other thing like smaller classes and hiring more teachers. What this does is spend a lot on expendable items, so what happens in 3-5 yrs when they are out of date?