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Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 10:56 AM Aug 2023

New voting machines for NY? State OKs touchscreen models and opponents warn of problems

New York has signed off on a touchscreen voting machine that gives counties a new option for elections but has triggered concerns about errors and hacking that could lead to a legal challenge.

The state Board of Elections certified the ExpressVote XL model on Wednesday, adding it to the list of voting devices from which New York City and 57 counties choose. The machines feature a 32-inch interactive screen that displays the ballot and that voters touch to select candidates.

The Nebraska company that makes the device vows it's reliable and secure, saying it underwent hours of development and testing before New York certified it. The manufacturer had sought the state's approval for several years.


Call me a skeptic!! People are just getting used to the ones where the paper ballot is entered. That has a few problems with some people holding on or not making the insert. This will be a nightmare .


[link:https://www.recordonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/08/04/ny-approves-touchscreen-voting-machines-that-critics-say-are-risky/70519517007/|]

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New voting machines for NY? State OKs touchscreen models and opponents warn of problems (Original Post) Historic NY Aug 2023 OP
Well that's stupid. No paper record? dem4decades Aug 2023 #1
Terrible idea. When they go down the voting stops. yourout Aug 2023 #2
Our county in NC used touchscreen for years Abnredleg Aug 2023 #3
I don't care how voting is actually done, slightlv Aug 2023 #4

Abnredleg

(670 posts)
3. Our county in NC used touchscreen for years
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 11:21 AM
Aug 2023

And it did produce a paper log for verification. The system mentioned in the OP is authorized for use in NC, and it does produce a paper printout the the voter can use to check for accuracy.

https://www.essvote.com/products/expressvote-xl/

slightlv

(2,818 posts)
4. I don't care how voting is actually done,
Fri Aug 4, 2023, 05:23 PM
Aug 2023

as long as there is a paper trail for official purposes, and you are able to walk out of the polling place with a paper copy attesting to your votes.

The one thing I see happening that is most disconcerting to me is the potential loss of anonymity in our voting, thanks to all these "verification" laws R's have put into practice.

It's one thing to walk into a line to get your blank ballot and having to produce a photo ID, although there are disparities across states as to what constitutes a "valid ID" and how much assistance is offered in helping you to procure one if you don't already have a driver's license. This is ripe for malfeasance where the elderly and disabled are concerned.

But all this emphasis currently being placed on "signature" verification is frightening. Whose handwriting hasn't changed over time, due to chronic illness or, especially, age. Writing your name at 18 produces a different product than one done at 68, for example. I asked about this at our county election office during one of our last elections and got an answer I wasn't really comfortable with... basically it was, "we don't check that." Well... no... not right now you're not. Since we're a red state, how long is that rule going to apply? Note: I'm one of those whose signature looks substantially different than it did from when I first registered to vote. I don't think I'm alone.

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