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Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

Economy gives Trump advantage over Democrats in Ohio, pollsters find

Almost unnoticed on the day of last week’s Democratic debate in Westerville was the release of a new Battleground Poll, a bipartisan survey by Republican strategist Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group and Democrat Celinda Lake of Lake Research Partners.

The consensus: President Donald Trump is in trouble. That is, unless...

The pollsters told an Otterbein University audience that Trump loses to a generic Democrat in their survey, his approval ratings are negative overall and on almost every individual topic, and 51% of those surveyed want him impeached.

But Lake warned her fellow Democrats that danger lurks. Voters give Trump good marks for the economy and jobs.

“Until Democrats can offer the American public a bold economic plan and vision that convincingly addresses their pessimism, anxiety and real material insecurity, Trump will remain more competitive than he has a right to be,” she said.

Read more: https://www.dispatch.com/news/20191020/capitol-insider--economy-gives-trump-advantage-over-democrats-in-ohio-pollsters-find
(Columbus Dispatch)

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

1. Our Democratic candidates must

address this. imo

“Until Democrats can offer the American public a bold economic plan and vision that convincingly addresses their pessimism, anxiety and real material insecurity, Trump will remain more competitive than he has a right to be,” she said.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

3. They would not know a bold economic plan if it bit them in the ass. I am from Dayton Ohio.

 

They want unskilled labor jobs that pay them enough to live their lifestyles. That is the only economic plan they understand.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

5. Senator Warren's Job and Economic

plan gives me a framework. How could she better frame it to reassure the rust belt?

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/258155/elizabeth-warren-jobs-plans-american-public-opinion.aspx

Elizabeth Warren's Jobs Plans and U.S. Public Opinion
BY FRANK NEWPORT
POLLING MATTERS
JUNE 11, 2019

Most of the 23 Democratic presidential candidates talk about jobs in one way or another, but Sen. Elizabeth Warren has gained particular attention recently for her very specific and dramatic job-creation proposals. Warren made headlines last week with her plan for "fundamental, structural changes in our government's approach to the economy," with a strategy for using "all the tools of government to defend and create American jobs." Warren proposed spending $2 trillion in clean energy technology and combating climate change -- in the process creating "more than a million good jobs here at home."

Warren also called for the creation of a new cabinet-level Department of Economic Development, with "the sole responsibility to create and defend quality, sustainable American jobs."

This type of major focus on jobs is not a new concept. Franklin Roosevelt ran for president in 1932 promising a "New Deal" to help mitigate the massive unemployment gripping the nation, and he later created the Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps expressly to use government funds to employ workers in a wide variety of government jobs.

In 1992, Bill Clinton campaigned by decrying the incumbent government's failure to "produce what we need: good jobs in a growing economy" and promised to put "people first by investing more than $50 billion annually over the next four years to put America back to work."

And President Donald Trump in his 2016 presidential campaign promised that he would be "the greatest jobs president that God ever created," in the process promulgating an economic plan that he said would result in the creation of 25 million jobs. Trump has continued to trumpet the importance of jobs since taking office, headlining a number of his tweets with a three-word mantra: "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!"
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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:19 PM

9. There is really no plan here to connect with the people of Ohio that I know. Creating government

 

bureaucracy ( cabinet-level Department of Economic Development) is not the thing to do.

In Dayton Ohio in the 50's and 60's there were many factories. Jobs were moved from Dayton to the South and other countries to get away with having to pay for benefits won in union contracts.

If manufacturing came back building green energy technology that would be a big boost to Dayton but every city in America wants green jobs. There are not enough to go around.

We have to stop trying to recreate the past. What we need is to understand what the jobs of the future will be and we need to train people to work those jobs.

And I think we need to have a movement toward minimization. People need to stop thinking a good life means inquiring the most amount of stuff they can.

We need to move people toward healthier life styles. Better diets and exercise to overcome obesity.

Basically we need to learn how to have fulfilling lives without the center being consumerism.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:23 PM

10. Yes, manufacturing jobs are a thing of the past.

We have to stop trying to recreate the past. What we need is to understand what the jobs of the future will be and we need to train people to work those jobs.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:07 AM

2. I grew up in Dayton in the 50's and 60's. Back then any white male could get a job at any number

 

of factories. And they all voted Democratic.

Today the old Frigidaire factory in Moraine which became a truck factory has been shut down twice since 2008. Yet those workers think trump is going to save their asses.

Many of my classmates who were taught liberal ideas at Chaminade HS in the 60's are MAGAs

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

4. Florida

Florida is the key now. If we can pull it off- game over. Period. Florida's demographics favor democrats in a high turn out election. It's always competitive. If we turn out, we win. The urban areas and South Florida, Dade and Broward literally can end the election early next year. We need a nominee that will GOTV.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:24 AM

6. Not so fast...Trump is wacking Ohio's economy.

https://www.policymattersohio.org/research-policy/fair-economy/work-wages/job-watch/wrong-direction-ohio-lost-jobs-in-september

Stop it with these phony previews of Trump’s 2020 campaign propaganda.

Trump will lose Ohio this time... thankfully.

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Response to farmbo (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:39 AM

7. I certainly hope so. nt

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:43 AM

8. The support for a President that has to be "blipped" when around kids says all I need to know. Ohio

voters that support Trump are either someone I would not want my family around or just nasty folks.

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