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TexasTowelie

(112,234 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:42 AM Nov 2016

1 Washington state Democratic elector won’t support Clinton, another won’t commit

One of Washington state’s Democratic presidential electors is vowing not to cast his Electoral College vote for Hillary Clinton — even if she wins the state handily on Election Day. Another elector says he is considering withholding his vote.

“No, no, no on Hillary. Absolutely not. No way,” said Robert Satiacum, a member of Washington’s Puyallup Tribe who had supported Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders as the Democratic presidential nominee.

He had earlier told various media outlets he was wrestling with whether his conscience would allow him to support Clinton and was considering stepping aside for an alternate elector. But on Friday, he sounded firm, even if the election is close.

“I hope it comes down to a swing vote and it’s me,” he said. “Good. She ain’t getting it. Maybe it’ll wake this country up.”

Read more: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/hes-a-state-democratic-elector-but-robert-satiacum-says-he-wont-vote-for-clinton/

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1 Washington state Democratic elector won’t support Clinton, another won’t commit (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2016 OP
Way to get tossed out of the club, after being fined. MADem Nov 2016 #1
I believe Washington has a $1,000 fine for not voting for the popularly elected candidate, and... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #2
I think Sanders was the better candidate, also, but there's so much at stake now Warpy Nov 2016 #3
My suspicions are TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #4

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Way to get tossed out of the club, after being fined.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:48 AM
Nov 2016
In a statement last month, the Puyallup Tribal Council distanced itself from Satiacum. While saying the tribe supported the “personal convictions” of Satiacum, the statement noted that as an elector he had pledged to cast his vote for the winner of the state’s popular vote.

Satiacum “risks dishonoring himself” by not fulfilling that duty, the council’s statement said.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. I believe Washington has a $1,000 fine for not voting for the popularly elected candidate, and...
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 03:59 AM
Nov 2016

there are alternate electors in the event he can't vote. And he will definitely be thrown out of the club.

If that seems like it is defeating the point of the electoral college, it is. But, party discipline does have something to be said for it when the alternative could be anarchy.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
3. I think Sanders was the better candidate, also, but there's so much at stake now
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:13 AM
Nov 2016

that I had no problem voting for Clinton. Satiacum needs to step aside in favor of an elector whose political baggage doesn't drag the party backward.

Also, If I was an elector who put Trump into office because I couldn't bring myself to vote for anybody but Sanders, I'd be anything but proud of it. What the hell is wrong with this guy?

TexasTowelie

(112,234 posts)
4. My suspicions are
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 04:39 AM
Nov 2016

that he wants to get in the history books as an asterisk. It might be funny if Clinton wins by a wide margin, but I think that it would be particularly selfish if it meant that the race is sent to the House of Representatives for a decision.

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