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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 02:56 PM Jul 2023

Stephen Harper seeks closer conservative ties with controversial Hungarian government

Stephen Harper seeks closer conservative ties with controversial Hungarian government

Dylan Robertson · The Canadian Press · Posted: Jul 06, 2023 1:41 PM EDT | Last Updated: 14 minutes ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-orban-ties-1.6898904

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Former prime minister Stephen Harper says he wants closer ties between right-leaning political parties — including the Conservative Party of Canada — and the Hungarian government, which has been accused of democratic backsliding.

Harper chairs the International Democrat Union, a global alliance of right-leaning political parties that includes Canada's Conservatives as well as the Fidesz Party led by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

The two met Thursday in Budapest. Harper said on Twitter they discussed "the importance of centre-right parties strengthening their collaboration."

Human Rights Watch says Orban's government has delivered sustained "attacks on rule of law and public institutions," such as surveillance of journalists and actions undermining judicial independence.

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Orban and his party are far from being... Spazito Jul 2023 #1
Yup. They say they are center right because they are snakes. It is applegrove Jul 2023 #2
Exactly. Spazito Jul 2023 #3
It is also a push poll because they define themselves with the lie they are center right applegrove Jul 2023 #4
They used to be truly center-right maybe in the late 90's... Spazito Jul 2023 #5
I hate to see Canada slightlv Jul 2023 #6
Yes. Fortunately some old time Conservatives are standing up against applegrove Jul 2023 #7

Spazito

(50,349 posts)
1. Orban and his party are far from being...
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 03:03 PM
Jul 2023

center-right, they are far right and Harper's party is no longer center right either. PP has taken it far right as well, imo.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
4. It is also a push poll because they define themselves with the lie they are center right
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 03:31 PM
Jul 2023

in the description of themselves. The lie is prime. The lie is in probably their first line. Snakes.

Spazito

(50,349 posts)
5. They used to be truly center-right maybe in the late 90's...
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 03:42 PM
Jul 2023

but have been moving further right ever since, imo. Snakes indeed.

slightlv

(2,818 posts)
6. I hate to see Canada
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 04:27 PM
Jul 2023

fall prey to the evils of the U.S. I hate seeing any other country devolve into what we've become here. I hope they have better laws and better enforcers of the law to fight back.

Bannon's big project was to go all over the world and insinuate (and teach) his form of violent governmental chaos. Even tho Italy stood firm and refused to give him his school to teach from, it looks like he and others like him are doing quite well without four walls. How do you fight an asymmetric war like this? How do you even declare a war like this? And yet, no doubt we *are* in a war for our very country and lives.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
7. Yes. Fortunately some old time Conservatives are standing up against
Thu Jul 6, 2023, 04:39 PM
Jul 2023

the politics of division. But yeah. No country is immune.

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