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CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:41 AM Jan 2013

NDP bid to repeal Clarity Act is a bad move for Canada

The NDP opposition has been taking a hit in the polls lately, dropping below 30 per cent support on a regular basis. As well, the party was strangely silent during Theresa Spence’s hunger strike, leaving an opening seized by Liberal Party leader Bob Rae. Now, suddenly, comes party leader Thomas Mulcair with a plan to repeal the Clarity Act as a way to shore up sagging support in Quebec, the province that is key to the party’s electoral success. It is a risky move for the NDP, and a bad one for Canada.

The NDP surged into Opposition in 2011, carried there by unprecedented support in Quebec, where the party won 59 out of 75 seats. But Mr. Mulcair knows that, politically speaking, Quebec giveth and Quebec taketh away. The NDP’s success there in 2011 was a combination of many factors. The question for the NDP has always been, now that we have it, how do we keep it?

Repealing the Clarity Act, as Mr. Mulcair is now making a bid to do, is not the answer. The act, passed in 2000 by Jean Chretien’s Liberal government, states Ottawa will only negotiate sovereignty in the wake of a clear majority for the yes side in a referendum (without stating what the threshold for a clear majority actually is), that the question posed must be simple and direct, and that an amendment to the Constitution is required before Quebec can secede. The bill has never been popular in Quebec, for obvious reasons.

Mr. Mulcair’s proposed bill would also require a precisely worded question, but it would allow Quebec to secede with a simple referendum majority of 50 per cent plus one. It is in, in short, a step backward that will reopen old wounds and divisions for no reason other than to protect the NDP’s gains in Quebec. Worse still, it is by no means guaranteed to work, given the fickle nature of Quebec voters.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/editorials/ndp-bid-to-repeal-clarity-act-is-a-bad-move-for-canada/article7936888/

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NDP bid to repeal Clarity Act is a bad move for Canada (Original Post) CHIMO Jan 2013 OP
I'm not sure this is as big of a deal as the media is making it. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #1
I Think CHIMO Jan 2013 #2

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
1. I'm not sure this is as big of a deal as the media is making it.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jan 2013

But when the notion of separation comes up, the chest thumping starts despite being an increasingly non-issue because hardcore support for separatism is dieing.

Personally I wish Mulcair just ignored this idiotic Bloc Bill and simply voted with the other parties against it (as he indicated they will). The purely political motivation of the Bloc's bill is to simply weaken the NDP's support within Quebec, pigeon holing the NDP's position as 'either/or' instead of a party representing all Quebecors. If they were serious about separation then they would appeal to the UN, especially since they were give 'nation' status back in 2006.

Given the crappy choices, I don't blame Mulcair to attempt to try and clarify (quantify) the Clarity act, and if Harper can destroy the 'old' Canada with 39% of the electoral vote, and 24% of the popular vote, then I honestly don't see 50% +1 being undemocratic. If they really want to separate, who are we to to stop them. The thing is they really don't want to separate.

On another note, I noticed that the CBC took yesterday's story about the NDP and Bloc, and grafted its comments onto a new story about Trudeau, thereby reaching its daily pro-Trudeau quota.

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
2. I Think
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jan 2013

That it is quite a big deal. The Liberals are into the final strokes in electing a leader.
All,save one, Joyce Murray, don't want to go near the NDP nor the Green. Well keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. One has the same output.

Run the Liberals as better buddies of the Cons and have them fight the right side to get Harper and his Reform out or merge the left to do the same.

The new issue now becomes the clarity act, put there by Dion. This issue might give the Liberals an issue that makes them different than all the other parties. And now Mulcair has a hand in the Liberal party selection of leader! And Joyce looses those with merger on their mind.

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