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donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
8. Our smoke is from Northern Alberta fires, and there's no end in sight yet
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jun 2019

The summer hasn't even officially begun and our fires this year arent more numerous - they're just more devastating both in loss of land and homes. 10,000+ people evacuated for a week now.

I will be buying a Class C motorhome this summer, specifically for both camping AND bugging out in case of fire or flood. I've already gone thru a flood, and dont want to go thru a fire evacuation. How awful for all those people.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
9. Dang man. just saw a story about
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:49 PM
Jun 2019

Paradise Valley(?) my apologies if that's the wrong name, in CA where the water table now is corrupted, from the benzine and other contaminants from just the homes burning, and the fire response to extinguish it, LAST YEAR.. Such awful destruction.
Canadas got so much pristine timberland, Crystal clear lakes, and great people. Hang in there please.

applegrove

(118,634 posts)
3. 888 square miles are burning. There is a drought. How long do you think it will
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jun 2019

Take to put it out? Rain storms just result in more lightening and more fires.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
4. There's a real problem with woodland fires.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:22 PM
Jun 2019

Especially where there is deep dry bogs/muskeg type undergrowth. Not only does the fire ravage the woods, but, the fire itself can go DEEP into the ground and smolder, only later to rekindle. The northern states, and Canadas vast wilderness, have this as an added PIA when trying to douse fires. That's a lot of acreage. Canada has shown itself to be very adept at putting these fires out. They can definitely be protracted though. Lot's of variables obviously. Hang in there.
As I recall, when the winds whip up, fires can skip over EIGHT football fields within a few seconds. That's so dangerous for obvious reasons. Happens especially in valleys and ravines, as I recall from seeing coverage of CA fires year after year. That's a formidable foe.

applegrove

(118,634 posts)
5. I've seen that at our lake in quebec. Came across a neighbours campsite
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jun 2019

that they had put out in the morning. By the time i kayaked there by chance the smoke was rising from the whole area. Not alot. Just enough that i could see the smoke. Someone from far away probably could not see the smoke and all the other cottages were far away at the time. Lucky i was there. Went and told my uncle and he put it out. Don't know how one would put out a fire that deep. I had kayak leg freeze so i could not get out of the kayak and help.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
6. Fires in areas like that, can go literally tens of feet below ground.
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jun 2019

As long as theres a wisp of O2...they can linger for quite some time.

applegrove

(118,634 posts)
7. Yes but i'm guessing with the lack of smoke there is not a lot of fire as there is only a small bit
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jun 2019

of oxygen that far underground. Our parents always warned us of the underground fire hassard when we camped on the nearby island and had the rare campfire ourselves so I knew what it was when I saw it. I just could not get out of the kayak myself and put it out.

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