The Establishment Wants Bernie To Drop Out - Now!

[scottie55]

So they can continue robbing our families.

Remember, Bernie is fighting for a better America for the 99%. It is the 1% and all their sheep that don't want his message broadcast.

Wall Street, corporations, and their owners want to keep the good times rolling, and pay next to nothing in taxes while saddling our children with their bills, all externalities, and a dying overheated planet.

They need Bernie to shut up right now.

Rec if you understand.

[pmorlan1]

1. Totally Understand

They are fooling fewer and fewer people every day.

[lewebley3]

75. Sanders is the establishment: The American people need him to dropout

[bjobotts]

100. how can you make such a stupid unfounded comment. Clinton is the multimilionaire corp rep

"The American People" don't vote in the democratic primary. Your strawman generalizations mark you as just plain stupid

[bjobotts]

104. Democrats are not "the American People". It's the primaries not the GE Clinton did same in '08

[billhicks76]

144. 1000s Of Voters Purged In CA...Check Your Registration

It's happening again and right before the primary.

[ReRe]

109. I thought...

..."Sanders is the establishment? ??? WTF? And the people are supposed to drop out? WTF x 2?"... then I looked at your name.

[Phlem]

137. Win!

[rhett o rick]

111. The Establishment is the DNC, the Corp-Media with Andrea Mitchell, Goldman-Sachs,

the Koch Bros, the Super Delegates (by definition), the party elites in most states. They are a culture of corruption and need to be brought down.

Sen Sanders is being supported solely by the People. No super-pacs, no citizens united, no corp-meida, just People. And I think that's what scares the Oligarchy, People, real People.

While you feel comfortable siding with the rich and powerful, we are working to feed those living in poverty because of your greedy friends on Wall Street. Shame on you.

[Akamai]

149. Add Rachel Maddow. Last night on her show she said of the

Nevada event that it was there that Bernie Sanders' supporters "allegedly" threw chairs.

How far she has fallen.

Not long ago she would have corrected herself and would have apologized for saying Bernie supporters threw chairs. Instead, now she is using a weasel statement "allegedly" without pointing out that there is no evidence that chairs were thrown.

Pathetic.

[scottie55]

2. The Establishment Controls Both Parties

Even if you try to serve the average American you are always afraid. If you step on the toes of the 1%ers they will crush you with their super pacs, or by funding a primary opponent to challenge you.

I heard it called the iceberg effect.

It's not what they do as much as the fear of what they might do if you threaten their profits.

[merrily]

28. Thread win. That's the ball game right there. Reagan and Bush raise taxes and fees,

Bubba ends welfare as we know it.

I don't care if they are colluding or not. However it happens, the 90% are the ball in this game of pro tennis.

[tularetom]

56. After years of denying it, I sadly must conclude that both sides are equally bad for democracy

One side is just a bit more blatant and obvious about it.

And more willing to cop to it.

[Phlem]

138. Spot On.

[JDPriestly]

3. The more they urge Bernie to drop out, the more I wonder what is going on with that

FBI investigation and the civil suit depositions of Hillary's people.

Bernie should stay in the race.

First, we haven't voted yet in California.

Second, this year, anything can happen. The Democratic Party is about evenly divided with regard to Hillary and Bernie. And Hillary could have to drop out. I do not want someone like Joe Biden forced upon Democrats when Bernie is so popular.

Bernie, keep fighting. Thanks.

Feel the Bern!

Nobody said this would be easy.

Keep the faith, Bernie.

[jwirr]

7. You may have something there. The first poster talked about

her possible indictment. So if Bernie were to drop out and she gets indicted Biden could step in with no opposition. And Hillary could still satisfy her rich donors.

If Bernie stays in it is a different story. Whoever steps in would have a fight on their hands.

I am old enough to remember many National Conventions where there was more than the winning candidate still in the running. To me I want to know why we cannot do that again? Or is she beginning to realize that she has been building a reputation that will make the Super-Delegates think twice?

[JDPriestly]

142. I am also old enough to remember conventions that were open.

Bernie probably remembers that time too. He should stay in.

But we have to keep sending him money.

Shouldn't take too much to contest California, New Mexico and some of the other states.

Bernie actually travels to the places where he campaigns. He spends money on his campaigns and talks to crowds of people.

I don't know what Hillary does with all the cash she raises from all the rich people she gets it from. She doesn't mix with ordinary people that much. Have never seen a yard sign for her in my neighborhood and we are just a few weeks from the election.

Her ads are all the free TV commentary. Haven't met a Hillary volunteer yet. I did get a call and told the caller I was definitely for Bernie. Since then, nothing.

It's mostly pro-Bernie in my neighborhood except for the middle-aged women.

[MynameisBlarney]

21. Honestly, I don't think she's going to be indicted.

Other than that though, I agree with your post.

[JDPriestly]

25. Indicted, no. Embarrassed, yes.

The interviews and depositions will provide material for conjecture and innuendo.

Unfortunately, that's all it takes.

And Hillary is going to want to gather her troops around her when it happens.

But what she doesn't understand is that offending Bernie and his supporters is not the way to gather the troops.

Has Hillary condemned the violence against a Bernie supporter by one of her fans?

I honestly missed it if it happened. Do you know?

[MynameisBlarney]

55. I don't know if she's condemned that attack as of yet.

If she hasn't though, that may come back to haunt her.

And, FWIW, I've not noticed that Hillary herself has been offending us Bernie supporters, but some of the people supporting her surely have been. (And DWS sure ain't helping.)
Same for some Bernie supporters. There's vitriol aplenty from both camps, in the forums anyway.

Speaking only for myself, I MUCH prefer Bernie, but if HRC gets the nod, then I'll not only be voting FOR her, I'll be voting AGAINST drumpf.
Hillary leaves a LOT to be desired, but she's not a fascist trust fund baby who is inspiring all the actual card-carrying racists to crawl out of their holes voicing how she speaks for them.

Hillary is certainly the status quo candidate. But drumpf is something far, far worse.

[McKim]

62. Maybe She Doesn't Need us to "Win"

Maybe she doesn't need us to "win". Maybe the Neocon and War Profiteers in the formerly Republican Party are quietly climbing on her bandwagon. Certainly the Bushes would back her foreign policy. Kagan and Kissinger are on board and even one of the Kochs.

[glinda]

128. Trump and HRC both embarrassing.

[JDPriestly]

131. Yes.

[Enthusiast]

54. They are in a panic mode. The unwarranted smears/lies have increased.

Why such desperation? If she is all powerful and destroying Bernie as they claim, why such desperation?

[Ford_Prefect]

79. The apparent and driving panic is the one that raises my red flag radar.

They do not want the progressive wing at the convention at all. They do not want floor debates over party policy. They do not seem to want any progressive candidates for Congress or the Senate either. They have done everything they can to assert their authority over the Democratic party and voters. I haven't seen this level of Democratic infra-party nastiness since Humphrey or Carter ran. Party Purity indeed!

It makes no sense to deny a choice to the Democratic voters in the remaining primaries any more than it does to assert that the southern states which will likely go GOP in the general election should have no say in the Primary voting.

[jonmac511]

162. yes!

The behavior coming from the Clinton camp(DNC included) is not the behavior of the "winner" as she has claimed. The whole Nevada debacle was desperation from the party and her surrogates, trying to paint Bernie's supporters as some lunatic fringe. As usual in this primary, it backfired and only made her look bad(as well as Barbara Boxer and Roberta Lange). The MSM will try to continue with the falsehoods they've perpetuated, even though the video evidence exposes their lies, to anyone interested in finding the truth. John Ralston has made himself completely unreliable, unethical and integrity free. This increased pressure to drop out seems desperate, for the self proclaimed "winner." If anything, she should want to delay having Trump and the right wing from going into full attack mode on her.

[emsimon33]

133. Yes, something is going to happen and Bernie will be the nominee and president

I have this on good authority.

It may be the FBI. It may be the Panama Papers. It may be breaking the law and selling weapons to countries in exchange for payments to the Clinton Foundation. It could be the challenges going on in several states that may negate Clinton's "wins." It may be...Good grief, the list is too long to keep typing.

However, whatever it is, she will be toast as will her puppet masters.

We are on the right side of history.

We are on the right side of goodness and honesty and caring for each other rather than worshiping and judging people by how much wealth and power they have accumulated.

I go out everyday and pick up the sword and fight against spurs that will bring oil trains from the Alberta Tar Sands. I fight extreme extraction (we can't call it fracking) of crude that imperils our aquifer. I fight for measures that will reduce carbon emissions and decrease global warming. I fight for clean syringes and supplies for our local intravenous drug users. I fight for veterans who return to no jobs, to no healthcare, to a country that puts buying the latest iPhone as a priority. I fight to find food and clothing for the 47% of school-age children in my county that live at or below the poverty level. I fight against discrimination of any kind. I fight for better schools that support and celebrate teachers...and respect them. I fight to ensure that the homeless and the elderly get fed. I fight and fight and I fight. The first national politician who has continuously and unwaveringly fought these fights is Bernie Sanders.

I am tired of fighting with just a few others. I am tired. I want a country that is for everyone, not just the rich and powerful. I want the United States to stop being the bully, the war monger of the world.

I can not fathom why anyone who is in these fights would vote for Hillary Clinton or would marginalize and dismiss those who do.

I fight for Bernie because he fights for me and for you, even those who support Hillary or Trump or who are too alienated to even vote.

Bernie is going to be president because so many people who have fought these fights for too long are putting their collective energy, collective good will, their collective ability to envision the United States and its people as a better country and a better people into this fight.

Send us your tolls, your negativity, your smugness, your lack of information, your blind loyalty. We shall take it all in and continue to fight for you and for a better country for us all.

[JDPriestly]

143. Thanks. Your statement is inspiring. I really needed that.

[emsimon33]

145. Thank you for your kind words

[Enthusiast]

150. Wow! That kicks butt!

[people]

4. Yep. So totally true!

Why though? If she's so close to having all the pledged delegates she needs why do they bother pressuring Bernies so hard? I don't understand it.

[litlbilly]

6. my guess would be, with CA new regs off the charts, their internals must be horrible.

[italiangirl]

14. litibilly

You hit the nail on the head. Hillary camp scared to death of CA. Why do you think he was offered a position at the convention?
CA please, we need you now! Please do not disappoint us.
I am 85 and looking forward to supporting Bernie all the way to CA.

GO BERNIE, DON'T STOP NOW!

[frylock]

23. Hi. I live in California, and we will be delivering for Bernie.

[italiangirl]

40. frylock

woohoo Thank you for making my day! From your iips to God's ears
GO BERNIE

[catchnrelease]

57. I voted!

This SoCal native mailed in her ballot for BERNIE!!!

[frylock]

67. I received my mail-in ballot, but will hand deliver it on primary day.

I like to wear my 'I Voted' sticker to the office!

[Samantha]

74. What method for voting is used in California?

Just wondering.

Sam

[frylock]

78. I believe they are punchcards.

I haven't voted in a polling place in over 20 years. I'm a permanent mail-in voter.

[catchnrelease]

86. Punch cards

I also have been a mail in voter for ages, but I think the punch cards are used for both mail in and in person voting. Once turned in they are all counted by optical scanner, or that's what I have been told. So while I think this way is better than touch screen voting, I am sure there are ways to hack the vote if someone wanted to do it.

[bjobotts]

106. Better check your registration as computers there are flipping them and unregistering many

[frylock]

115. I have, many times over the last several weeks.

All good here.

[Silver_Witch]

139. Oh yes we will...

[glinda]

130. Well Bernie's name means "Bear".....

[Enthusiast]

151. I believe you have it.

[erlewyne]

5. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

I will write in his name.

BERNIE SANDERS on my ticket.

Trump does not exist in my mind.

I would love the irony if he was voted in.

I will not vote for Hillary. She is on a different planet.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

41. Drumpf and Wall Street are very happy you are doing that.

You think Hillary is friendly to Wall Street?

[scottie55]

49. Look Up Graham Leach Bliley

And answer your own question with a straight face.

You think she will bust the balls of the people who's money she will need for her re-election when they break a few thousand laws (again)?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

80. I cant emphasis speech in text, the point is while Hillary may be friendly to Wall Street

Drumpf IS Wall Street


But you know that already.

[scottie55]

114. Trump Is Beyond Scum - Birther Bastard

If I hear anyone saying anything nice about drumpf, I will verbally abuse them.

In honor of my Latino wife, and my BORN IN HAWAII president.

[SammyWinstonJack]

69. Yeah, HILLarious.....

[erlewyne]

76. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

And I sleep very comfortably with doing that.

[Giggity]

92. Hillary is extremely Wall St friendly.

That's hardly a secret.

[bjobotts]

107. She's a multimillionaire accepting millions from Wall street and Banksters in speaking fees etc.

She wil ignore those who are not millionaires as she has nothing in common with them.

[emsimon33]

135. No, I do not "Think." I know. Facts are facts.

[quakerboy]

147. You might ask her campaign contributors

whether they think she is friendly to them.

[Plucketeer]

97. Yup!

Hair Fuhrer doesn't even know I exist. But Hillary does and she's lyin' like a banshee to try and hoodwink me. NO WAY she'd EVER get my vote - not now - not in the General.

[erlewyne]

171. yup!

I sure liked your post

I read your print and share.

[oldandhappy]

8. I am beginning to worry

about the poor people in the DNC. Their hands are in a permanent clinch trying to control everything.

[Arugula Latte]

9. Rigging, lying, and propagandizing are hard work!

[Raster]

11. DWS needs to brush up on her table-hopping skills.

[emsimon33]

129. Would be nice but she has some cushy job with the payday lenders

and offers from her other puppet masters.

[ReRe]

113. "beginning to worry about the poor people in the DNC?"

Tell me that was just sarcasm. Thanks.

[oldandhappy]

119. yes, giggle

[ReRe]

124. Thought so. :-) n/t

[Enthusiast]

152. My arthritis hurts just thinking about it.

[oldandhappy]

165. LOL yep

[phazed0]

10. K&R! Notice the likes for Bernie posts vs Hillary posts on DU...

Bernie vs MSM, DNC is always 3-4x more favored on the forum. That's even considering the Correct the Record bots.

[Duval]

12. I understand too well.

Sadly, that is.

[LaydeeBug]

13. No...the *math* dictates it. The establishment want him to stay in

which is why Republicans are supporting him, namely their front runner.

But keep trying with your delusion

[phazed0]

15. Double-think much? Lol. nt

[LaydeeBug]

19. Nope. It's called *math*. nt

[phazed0]

20. Which part of this has to do with math?

"The establishment want him to stay in which is why Republicans are supporting him, namely their front runner." - LaydeeBug

Rather, your own delusion. All you have to do is back up your claim.. should be easy for someone so amazing, as yourself!

[frylock]

26. It's starting to look like meth.

[HubertHeaver]

39. By Jove, I think you got it!

[arikara]

110. LOL!

#Hillarymeth

[ReRe]

117. +1

[Enthusiast]

153. LOL!

Love your Godzilla!

[ReRe]

116. "Math death."

said GWB.

[antigop]

16. I think there are a couple of reasons...

1) The more Bernie campaigns, the more people hear his message. It's not a message the establishment wants people to hear.

2) As explained above, they are worried about the FBI investigation and need a plan B. They need Bernie out of the way if they have to implement plan B.

[frylock]

27. 3) Hillary's internals for Cali look abysmal, and they can't afford the embarrassment.

[11 Bravo]

17. Trump sure as Hell doesn't!

[Greybnk48]

18. Quick! Before California! n/t

[frylock]

22. Hillary desperately wants to win in California.

That is not happening with Bernie gumming up the works.

[appalachiablue]

31. What the fracas in NV was about with Boxer, the DNC, Reid and the Media in overdrive.

Bernie will win California regardless. All the Way to Philly!

[frylock]

34. Absolutely. That whole shit show was set up with the intent of effecting California.

No question about it.

[scottie55]

51. Yes It Was A Set Up That's Why Boxer Was There

It is all one big joke.

On us.

And our families......

[emsimon33]

134. She has probably been promised an ambassadorship or something.

And then there are her Rodham grandchildren, too.

I was very disappointed in Boxer but the very fact that she reacted as she did reveals how guilty she felt about selling out.

[Enthusiast]

154. It was well rehearsed theater with Boxer in the starring role.

[Jack Rabbit]

24. K/R

Down with the Robber Barons!

[pmorlan1]

29. And

their corrupt accomplices.

[Betty Karlson]

30. No more status quo!

Let Clinton's Campaign Crash on Cali's Coasts!

[bjobotts]

102. This can turn into who hates what candidate the most. Trump hate or Hillary hate

It's Bernie's agenda that is the clear winner bringing in all the newbies into the party with a populist movement which touches on all the issues the American people say they stand for when polled. Without Sanders these issues would just be ignored no matter what the people want. Now they are front and center bringing the party back to its roots standing for the American worker and middle class...not the bankers or wall street which Clinton represents having taken millions from them in fees and personal payments. Clinton supporters don't want to hear the truth about her financial arrangements as if these 'facts' are attacks instead of revelations. No I'm not desperate or vengeful. I'm investigative and accepting of what I find. Clinton's recent comments lack humility and make it seem as if she thinks she has been ordained to be the nominee.. It doesn't help the agenda or the process of democracy. She should admit it's been close and Bernie is a valued member of the party or something along those lines but she ignores the other half of the dem party...which tells exactly how she will be in office...ignoring the progressive side of the party. The way she treats non supporters now is how she will treat them later.
So will it come down to who do you hate more Hillary or Trump? the King and Queen of corporate tyranny.

[ReRe]

120. Well, one thing's for sure...

At least we have a CHOICE this time. I agree with your thoughts on her "fireside" personality, i.e., her lack of humility, her pomposity. Karma's gonna bite her in the butt for that for sure, even if she does win the election (which I'm pretty sure she won't if she's the candidate.) I've seen that happen too many times in my life. Karma is real.

[Enthusiast]

155. Huge +1!

[felix_numinous]

32. They want nothing else but for us to shut up

and if we don't are ready to profile us as criminals. Any government that allows Black people to be scapegoated and profiled (and I am not singling out Obama, it is systems wide) are perfectly able to shift their focus onto ANYONE else--it's as simple as that. We ignore the signs at our own peril.

The erosion of our inalienable rights, Constitutional Rights have created this Progressive Movement, or what ever you want to call it. People across the country from farmers who have lost everything, to veterans and young people who have been screwed out of a normal life, to people who have been harassed by the police for running out of money--are growing in numbers.

Bernie Sanders is offering these powerful people a way out of a very very destabilized future. The rich don't have to give up their lifestyle of course-- UNLESS THEY ARE CRIMINALS. This of course is why they are kicking and screaming, because they don't want to be held accountable.

If the PTB have ANY sense of self preservation they need to get this concept, that Clintons and Trump would bring this country to RUIN, and Bernie Sanders is the only SANE choice.

[seekthetruth]

33. Oh I understand.

They're scared shirtless.

[TIME TO PANIC]

35. K & R!

[silvershadow]

36. The establishment can

taste my sphincter.

[Politicub]

37. Bernie is fighting against gains we've made at this point

Bernie is driven by driving wedges between us. Hillary is focused on progress and supporting dems down ticket.

Bernie peddles in lies. He's a shrewd politician, making promises he knows he won't be able to keep. A snake oil salesman has more honor than him.

[ejbr]

44. But

has she recovered from the sniper fire in Bosnia? What about the gold standard TPP she never peddled? I could go on...and on...and on.

Some of us refuse to cheer about being ripped off by the elite. Too bad that frustrates you

[freebrew]

47. "Hillary is focused on progress and supporting dems down ticket."????

Want to ask Clooney about that?

Hillary is concerned about Hillary.

[gregcrawford]

50. "... peddles in lies"?

... looking in the mirror when you wrote that, were you?

[Politicub]

73. Calling me a liar - classy

Bernie peddles in lies because he is about as establishment as they come. He knows the promises he's making will not come to fruition, yet he keeps feeding them to the gullible. I think he's hooked on the campaign cash he's receiving, and doesn't want to turn off the money spigot. So, he's also a greedy peddler of lies.

[gregcrawford]

156. I don't need to call you anything...

... because you prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt with every word you type.

[Politicub]

168. The stench of desperation from your posts

Brings a smile to my face.

[gregcrawford]

170. And posts like that tell everyone just what kind of person you really are.

[Enthusiast]

157. That is the funniest fucking thing I have read in ages.

[McKim]

64. You Mean Like Progress Like a Million Dead in Iraq, 250K in Syria?

The kind of progress that Hillary will make is not to my liking. She has the blood of a million Iraqis, and 250,000 Syrians on her hands.

[Politicub]

72. No. I mean the progress made for

Gay rights
Women's rights
Trans rights
African American rights

If a republican makes it into office, then we can kiss the progress we've earned goodbye.

[SheilaT]

125. Remind me again of her early support of gay rights.

Ooops. She was late to that party.

Women's rights? She's willing to compromise on abortion. She supports a lower minimum wage, which more women are likely to be subject to. And when she was on the board at WalMart she didn't exactly support the women working there, did she?

Need I go on?

[Bohunk68]

148. And willing to put SS and Medicare on the table. Yeah, fuck those

Democratic seniors, they are dying off anyway. Do I need a sarcasm thingee? Oh, and let's talk about GLBT seniors whose probable spouse died before the SCOTUS ruling and are now living in near poverty? Thank you, this widowed gay senior will go with Bernie.

[Dont call me Shirley]

89. And the progress in Honduras and Haiti.

[Ford_Prefect]

105. No she's not. She took back all that money given to the states into her own organization.

It was a money laundering scheme worthy of wall street. Hillary's version of "progress" comes with corporate sponsorship labels and copyright infringement warnings the same as when Nestle bottles water from public wells.

She will dole out patronage in dribs and drabs to support those few she favors, to guarantee their fealty, and any other Democrat will have to scramble. This is about party Purity and Loyalty to Our Leader, after all.

We cannot have disloyalty can we? Only certain kinds of Democrats are worthy. Some animals are clearly more equal than others.

Not unless you read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! Not unless you actually work for a living, or you used to. FDR and MLK are rolling in their graves over this one.

The "wedges" were driven during Clinton I with "Welfare Reform," and NAFTA, and the destruction of the wall between Investment and Savings banks, and now we prepare to bow before Clinton II. All Hail, All Hail, or be swept out of the party.

[ReRe]

121. What gains would that be, "Politicub"?

Wedges? Supporting corporate dino dems down ticket? Bernie peddles in lies? What lies would those be? Bernie is the truth-teller in the 2016 Campaign for POTUS. He tells the inconvenient truth that the 1%ers and their lacky DINOs don't want the people to know about.

[jonmac511]

163. gains?

This is part of the problem. What gains have been made? Slowing the bleeding is now considered gaining something? People have been losing since trickle down economics became a reality and both parties have done nothing to reverse those losses. Telling me I have to have health insurance and then fining me if I can't pay the, ever increasing, costs, is no kibf of gain that anyone should be proud of. This whole blaming the other party is only to manipulate people into accepting their fate as this country, literally and figuratively, crumbles around us. Gains? You gotta be joking.

[Politicub]

169. Tl; dr

Didn't need waste my time reading your wall of one-sidedness. Progress has been made. The center has shifted left. I don't care if you recognize it or not.

[xloadiex]

38. And I want a million dollars n/t

[HooptieWagon]

42. But if we're being robbed, we want it stopped incrementally.

[JFKcrat]

43. Interesting

I heard DNC internal #s are showing Bernie pulling ahead in Cali and they are pissed and scrambling because of it.

The DNC powers are trying to avoid the Superdelegates who indicated they would choose Hillary before Bernie was a viable candidate from being the difference in the nomination. If they end up being the difference, Bernie and friends have a valid complaint, one which makes the Repubs look better ethically as they do not have Superdelegates.

[liberal N proud]

45. So do a majority of Democratic voters

Several million more Democratic voters.

[Squinch]

53. So I think we're supposed to believe that the thirteen million of us plain folks are the

establishment, but the guy who has been in Congress for 40 years isn't.

It just keeps getting stupider.

[liberal N proud]

94. Seem that is what the perpetual victims want you and I to believe

[weknowvino2]

46. I will vote for Bernie in the California primary &

I will write in Bernie Sanders in the general
if HRC is the nominee.
(can't STAND her)

[gregcrawford]

48. The "Establishment" can go fuck themselves...

... they have exposed themselves for the treacherous, lying, cheating sonsabitches they've always been.

[pa28]

52. They want him to drop out NOW so Hillary can have enough earned delegates to win outright.

In that scenario Hillary and DNC can say Sanders and his supporters are irrelevant, the race was never close and they can rationalize cutting us out of the process at the convention.

They want to get to "shut up, fall in line and vote for the nominee" as quickly as possible. You know, business as usual.

[dobleremolque]

58. There has never been a successful revolution

that was carried out with polite deference.

"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did. It never will." Frederick Douglass

[mooseprime]

59. i had to give another 10$

as soon as i saw your post! thanks for the nudge

[beastie boy]

60. He should drop out. Now. His relationship to the Democratic party is totally parasitic.

He latched on to it for his convenience, he takes from it and he destroys his host in the process.

And then he wonders why the host objects to the relationship.

[chknltl]

87. Here let me fix that for you: DWS...

Debbie Wasserman Shultz should drop out. Now. Her relationship to the Democratic Party is totally parasitic.
She latched onto it for her own convienience, she takes from it and destroys her host in the process. And then she wonders why the host objects to the relationship.

There, your words with a change of victims and your post is all fixed and factually much more accurate. As Chairman, she has overseen the loss of the House, the Senate and it looks like she is well on track to lose the Presidency. If that is not a parasitic relationship i don't know what is!

Normally i don't do offensive posts like yours. Changing the name from Bernie to Debbie did not make it less offensive as posts go but it did make it closer to the truth.

[beastie boy]

90. You have no clue.

Just this once I will allow you to change the subject and respond, with a straight face, to what you are saying about DWS.

Not that I am a big fan of hers, but there is a big difference between incompetence and a parasitic relationship. She is a lousy leader, but a loyal bureaucrat, and she is sincere in trying to advance, however awkwardly, the cause of the Democratic party. This is not a parasitic relationship. She couldn't survive without the party.

Bernie, on the other hand, is a good leader and a lousy bureaucrat. He doesn't give a shit about the Democratic party - he only uses it for convenience in running for President. if he destroys it, no big deal, he will move on as if nothing happened. That's a parasitic relationship.

There will be a test on the subject next week.

[chknltl]

96. Lol buh-buy nuff said

[Enthusiast]

158. ...

[yurbud]

61. but we Bernocrats are the "entitled" ones, not those taking millions from Wall Street

[scottie55]

65. Taking Millions From Wall Street

While helping their corporations extract BILLIONS from the defenseless that have zero say in our government.

“Voters are incredibly ignorant. It’s far easier than you think to manipulate a nation of naive, self-absorbed sheep who crave instant gratification .?.?.,” vents Congressman X."

http://nypost.com/2016/05/13/were-running-a-f-ing-casino-politician-tells-all-in-manifesto/

"“We spend money we don’t have and blithely mortgage the future with a wink and a nod. Screw the next generation. It’s about getting credit now, lookin’ good for the upcoming election,” he says."

From Scottie:

If the billionaires paid their fair share, and corporations paid for the bills for their cleanup it would be different.....

[Herman4747]

63. If Bernie drops out, our choices are:

Absolutely nauseating, isn't it?

[zalinda]

66. I think that is the most genuine smile I've ever seen from her. eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

71. Right? GAWDS, I can't stomach her! And Bernie isn't dropping out

to hand her what she clearly hasn't earned. Go pound sand Hillary.

[bjobotts]

103. In '08 Clinton refused to drop out though she was beat and went to convention trying to flip

the superdelegates saying she was more electable than Obama. So why is everyone complaining if Bernie does the same. especially since the race is not over and he could still win it. Clinton supporters have either very poor or very selective memories

[Enthusiast]

159. I noticed that. You're Smoopie....

[jpmonk91]

136. Oh god don't remind me

Of the 2 alternatives to Bernie. America better get it right this time and elect Bernie.

[libdem4life]

68. Here's a Big Vote for Bernie...San Francisco Examiner

http://www.sfexaminer.com/examiner-endorsements-june-7-2016-presidential-primary-election/#USP

Scroll all the way to the bottom...

"U.S. President
With the Republican primary already decided, the Democratic race is the only game left in town.

This is the first California presidential primary that has mattered in nearly a half century. This is truly a momentous election for the voters. California might be Sen. Bernie Sanders’ last stand, but the fact he has made it this far against the Democratic machine that seemed intent to discount his candidacy from the outset speaks to the force of discontent in this country and the feeling, on the Democratic side, that Hillary Clinton is a flawed standard bearer for the party."

[zentrum]

81. Exactly.

Every damn time a member of the establishment blames him for HRC's struggling against Trump, this is the money quote: "His candidacy from the outset speaks to the force of discontent in this country."

HRC and company had no idea. I think they are completely surprised, completely out of touch.

[ReRe]

122. They ARE out of touch...

... I learned many many many years ago that you "can't go back". If you do it in politics, then you have to be someone honest and upstanding, like Abraham Lincoln or Bernie Sanders. "Of the people, by the people, and for the people." You absolutely MUST throw vanity and the giant ego out the window. It's not about you, it's about the people and their welfare.

[elleng]

70. Of course it does.

What's amazing to me is so many otherwise apparently intelligent and progressive and liberal people, 'friends' and others, go along with the baloney demand.

[creeksneakers2]

77. Millions are for Hillary

Are they all Wall Street tycoons?

[liberalnarb]

82. Her donors are. Wall Street tycoons and other mega-rich...people.

[scottie55]

85. Looking For More Corporate Welfare

And to get off scot-free the next time they commit financial felonies. Just like last time.

[scottie55]

84. A Few Of My Good Friends Support Hillary

These are great people. To them more of the same doesn't seem so bad. It's not like they are living under bridges.... Yet....

Many of us Bernie People realize we need DRASTIC change, and NOW. A president dedicated to change and millions of Democrats, and corporate rape victim Republicans can change the course of history. Slow walking change, and alienating millions of suffering Americans by ignoring our worst problems. isn't going to even make a dent in our catastrophic problems. You know, like wealth disparity, money corrupting our government, and climate DESTRUCTION.

The middle class, and poor haven't got a raise in many decades, and it is time it happened.

[SusanLarson]

83. Clinton is gonna lose California badly

I suspect possibly by enough that she gets 0 delegates, and Bernie gets them all. This is also why she doesn't want to debate, they know it will not help her.

[Giggity]

93. None of the polls I've seen suggests this...

Upon what are you basing this?

[jonmac511]

164. well

The party is training poll workers, in Cali, that NPP only get a provisional ballot instead of a crossover ballet. How more obvious can the rigging get and how much more are people willing to ignore, just to be "right" and win? Every county has differently written rules so I can't say every county is doing this but isn't one county too many? Again, Fairness goes out the window in favor of Clinton and I'm sure, again, it will be written off as coming from sore losers.

[bvar22]

88. I believe Hillary should Drop OUT NOW for the good of the Democratic Party and the 99%.

1) It is startlingly clear that Bernie has The Momentum going into the convention.

2) Sanders is polling much better than Hillary against Trump.
It would be STUPID to nominate the weaker candidate at this point.

What other reasons could any thinking person need?

Bernie has a MUCH BETTER chance of beating Trump than Hillary.
Remember, this is not just about Hillary and all that "Its Her Turn" bullshit.
The next president will appoint at least one Supreme Court Justice...and possibly 3.
Why take ANY chance that Trump will be making those appointments?
That would be JPS (Just Plain Stupid).

[libdem4life]

91. Let's hope he can continue the momentum. It's not over till it's over.

I think thumbing her nose at California was a mistake. For once, the state may hold actual relevance...for the nominee and the winner of the GE.

I don't know, of course, but one can hope.

[Enthusiast]

160. Me too.

[felix_numinous]

95. The crooked establishment has lost credibility

and has no right to tell anyone what to do.

[Android3.14]

98. Damn right, scottie

[Hotler]

99. Well ya!!

The PTB on both sides of the isle have too much money(cash cow) and power to lose if Bernie reaches the White House. The PTB will do anything they can to keep Bernie out. If they can't control him and he gets in they may pull a JFK and then the coup will happen.

[warrprayer]

101. ...

[ReRe]

108. K&R (I would rec this 1000 x if I could!)

And Bernie wants the establishment to STFU right now! This Primary isn't over yet. And even when it's over it won't be over.

I don't even want to hear Forest Gump's feather drop.

Silence. Zip it. Shush. Mum.

[scottie55]

112. THX

[billhicks76]

118. Clintonites Always Locking Their Own Threads

After they try to get the last word in. What's up with that? Seems so childish and something republicans would do.

[ReRe]

123. Hmmmmmm

I do wonder why.

[juxtaposed]

126. The Establishment Wants Bernie To stop making hrc look like an idiot.

[SheilaT]

127. They are terrified of him.

I went to the Bernie rally today in Santa Fe, and the energy there was amazing. Once again an overflow crowd.

NM will go for Bernie, that's for sure.

[jpmonk91]

132. I'm doing a post series on the revolution

Here is part 2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280199775

[Uncle Joe]

140. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, scottie55.

[scottie55]

146. U-Bet

[hopemountain]

141. it is the TPP and TPIP - their new golden

calf and more wars they worship as money cows for the future.

hillary is the queen who will unlock their future of unfettered wealth for them and mass servitude for the rest of us.

[Enthusiast]

161. K&R! I'm happy to see this post has received hundreds of recommendations. Take it over 300!

[uppityperson]

167. Are you saying we should do that, or that you are going to do that?

Welcome to DU.

[Machineland]

172. I am re-posting this here as in the other thread it wasn't noticed..

I have visited the Democratic Underground for all my news for 13 years or better but never engaged in posting until now. I have sit back and watched all the posts of Hillary supporters and Bernie fans going back and forth. My views are progressive Democrat. So I thought how could I engage in this conversation so folks could understand my thinking on the matter. So I came up with this.

Behold My Mind Flow chart!



Enjoy..If you would like to comment a thought I could add it to the flow chart to show you how that computes.