I suggest voting machines are suspect and there's a good argument for hand counting.

[scipan]

Personally I trust the paper ballots/ electronic counters but anything that marks your ballot for you or worse counts your vote completely electronically is a bad idea.

Former software engineer here.

The whole point is to have checks. The latter 2 don't allow for any.

[scipan]

1. Call me paranoid

but I think it's suspicious that trump hates absentee ballots. He hates that there is a paper ballot, which makes it harder to cheat. Many states recount using them.

[usonian]

2. Californians are mailed ballots and can return them in the mail or drop off with the clerk or dropbox.

This time, I used the dropbox inside the county clerk’s office.

It is a “fill in the dots” ballot and I trust the election officials to count them properly.

IMNSHO, having time to go over the choices at home and not drag a cheat-sheet into some polling place is great.

I suppose people still go to polling places. I haven’t for ages.

[stopdiggin]

3. you can suggest anything you like

but the fact remains that 'hand counting' ballots - is a solution to a problem that has never been shown to exist. And further, if by some chance did rear it's ugly head at some point in the future - would almost certainly be quickly identified and addressed by election officials.

[Think. Again.]

4. K&R, Thank you for posting this....

...as we all should know, a correct tabulation of the true votes of the people is paramount in a Democracy.

Anything and everything we can do to assure clear and fair elections is a must.

[Voltaire2]

5. Tabulators and paper are fine.

I agree the fully computerized systems are unverifiable and untrustworthy.

There is an odd convergence between the Magats and legitimate election integrity people.

[Susan Calvin]

6. Been saying this for literally decades.

Former computer science teacher here.

[LeftInTX]

7. No...One small county did it. It took 200 people to count 8,000 ballots. They can't afford to pay all the workers.

At 4:30 a.m. Wednesday, Gillespie County Republicans completed hand counting more than 8,000 ballots, following through on a decision the county party made months ago amid a statewide push led by individuals who have promoted some of the wildest election conspiracy theories since the 2020 election.


https://www.votebeat.org/texas/2024/03/06/gillespie-county-hand-count-republican-primary-gop/

It took four people three hours to count only 77 ballots.

[LiberalFighter]

8. It is extremely difficult to count paper ballots that have multiple contests included.

Difficult in that it takes longer than if it was just a simple candidate A vs B only on the ballot.

[LiberalFighter]

9. There are checks. They follow protocols in determining which ballots will be hand counted.

That is they do a hand count to see if results match up with the paper ballots. Same as matching up with electronic results.

And they have election workers from both parties participating.

Call your local county Democratic Party Chair and/or Election Board for details.