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elaristotle

(26 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:09 PM Jun 2014

Barack Obama and the Trader Principle

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Cha (a host of the Barack Obama group).

Who knew the Bergdahl deal would invoke Ayn Rand?

Ayn Rand Neocons have a concept called the Trader Principle, where two people or groups trade something of value for something held by another group. According to the Ayn Rand accolytes the Trader Principle is a sign of virtue in a person. It would be surprising for them to admit that Barack Obama might be applying the Trader Principle in negotiating the POW for Gitmo detainees deal. In fact I suspect they would try to re-define the Trader rather than allow it to define Obama as virtuous. And that is exactly what they have done.

In the Trader Principle you are trading something valued by another person, in exchange for something you value. If Bergdahl is someone the United States values, then the Trader Principle certainly applies here. However if the Neocons can convince people that Bergdahl is unwanted here then Obama is guilty of playing a suckers game. It's nothing personal against Bergdahl, but he must be portrayed as a deserter (or worse) so that the Republicans can win their case against Obama.

Reagan was given kudos by Ayn Rand types for his Iranian hostage trade deal. He was a Trader, and so was Alan Greenspan who exchanged his Ayn Rand cloak for a seat on the FED. George Bush Jr was a Trader when he gave Americans the extended War on Terror in exchange for securing his second term. In 1994 Newt Gingrich traded his Contract on America for the power to hold sway in D.C. There is a long history of Republican 'Traders' who have attempted to embody the Ayn Rand ideal. But never have they acknowledged a Democrat capable of it.

So either Obama just scored a 'Trader' deal and the Republicans need to acknowledge it, or he is the ultimate sucker/anti-American and the Republicans just need to convince us of this. You decide.

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Barack Obama and the Trader Principle (Original Post) elaristotle Jun 2014 OP
why would you insult us and charge us with "deciding"? hopemountain Jun 2014 #1
This is not the anti-Post your Obama bull crap Coolest Ranger Jun 2014 #2
K&R Whisp Jun 2014 #3
Sorry, not the place for this, elaristotle.. Cha Jun 2014 #4

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
1. why would you insult us and charge us with "deciding"?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jun 2014

clearly you have out stepped your bounds here in the BOG.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
2. This is not the anti-Post your Obama bull crap
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:05 AM
Jun 2014

group. I sure hope sheshe or Cha come in here and lock this stupid comment. God I'm getting so ticked off at you creeps posting your anti Obama crap here.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. K&R
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:32 AM
Jun 2014

Cha

(297,941 posts)
4. Sorry, not the place for this, elaristotle..
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jun 2014
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