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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:22 AM Apr 2016

Rachel Maddow Talks Hillary, Hate Mail & More in Our First Non-Nude Issue ~Playboy

https://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-rachel-maddow

More in link, some excerpts:

What difference would it make to have a woman as president?
It breaks the glass ceiling, which means the next woman to do it will be the second woman. Not that it always works that way. Britain had just the one; Israel had just the one. You do see when other countries get a female leader, particularly an iconic female leader, it doesn’t necessarily open the floodgates. It is unusual that we’re this old, robust democracy and pluralistic society, and we haven’t gotten ours yet. The gender achievement at the top in every single political representation really sucks. I mean, we’re super-psyched that we have 20 women senators. Yay, 20! Um, there are 100. I can do that math.
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Can you picture him being president?
Bernie Sanders is running this fascinating campaign where he’s all about people being angry and dissatisfied and frustrated. He wants you to be disaffected and frustrated about an economic system that keeps you from ever ascending the ladder. That is a great emotion to tap into for a politician but a hard lesson to sell in terms of where people should channel it. If that message works for you, it’s cathartic. People love him. They really do feel the Bern. He gets tens of thousands of people to turn out, but that sort of economic populism is a tough sell. The diagnosis is right; the cure isn’t easy. My prediction for Bernie: populist hero forever but hard to imagine him still being there at the convention.



What would it take to get the National Rifle Association on board with changes like those?
Raw political force. The power of the NRA used to be that it held sway over Democrats in a way that was unusual for a right-leaning interest group. More and more, the NRA is just a Republican interest group. As recently as the Bill Clinton era and even after, in the George W. Bush era, a considerable number of Democrats used to compete on the basis of their good standing with the NRA. Democrats now compete on the basis of who is the most aggressive against the NRA. That hasn’t leaked over into Republican politics yet, but Democrats have really changed. When Democrats win, the NRA loses. It was a brilliant strategy for decades to be able to keep its hold on Democrats, but it just pushed it too hard. I think Wayne LaPierre made them into an embarrassing organization that no Democrat wants to be a part of now. That’s really going to hurt them, but it will require raw Democratic political power. If the Democrats use their political might in the 2016 election, within four years the NRA could be effectively dead in terms of strangle-holding those federal issues.


Give us your report card on the president’s two terms.
Obama will go down as one of the more consequential and good presidents in American history, mostly because of what he did with what he was handed. Recovering from the Great Recession alone made me glad Paul Ryan wasn’t in the vice president’s office trying to make economic policy and going, “Hey, we’ve got to cut taxes for the rich!” In many ways, Obama held the tiller firm and got us through a terrible time.
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Rachel Maddow Talks Hillary, Hate Mail & More in Our First Non-Nude Issue ~Playboy (Original Post) Her Sister Apr 2016 OP
Is Maddow's show available online anywhere? Everywhere I've seen it has a paywall. IamMab Apr 2016 #1
I listen to the show audio on iTunes for free the next morning Her Sister Apr 2016 #2
Here otohara Apr 2016 #13
Thanks! IamMab Apr 2016 #15
Sounds like Maddow is an Obama Fan! Her Sister Apr 2016 #3
I think for about 8-10 months... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #4
Has Rachel addressed the "Democratic Whore" thing? I decided I can't watch her until the primaries Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #5
Not that I''ve noticed SharonClark Apr 2016 #20
Kick! Yay, Rachel! Hekate Apr 2016 #6
I only have Internet 2naSalit Apr 2016 #7
Works! Thanks for the links. eom fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #12
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2016 #8
Some great quotes in there. Here's Hillary... Hekate Apr 2016 #9
And more. Hillary and Bernie face to face... Hekate Apr 2016 #11
good interview creon Apr 2016 #10
"she listened to me so hard it felt like she was prying my thoughts out of my brain through my BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #14
A poiunt I have been reluctant to make 2naSalit Apr 2016 #16
I know a lot of people don't put much stock in zodiac signs, but understanding them has spared me a BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #18
How can anyone not admire a Scorpio woman like that? 2naSalit Apr 2016 #22
Yes, isn't it interesting jrandom421 Apr 2016 #17
I didn't even know that! Thanks for the list, jrandom421. Appeciate it! eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #19
Cool! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #23
She seems to have a lot in common jrandom421 Apr 2016 #27
LOL! Thanks for that! Her Sister Apr 2016 #28
And dont forget Katy Perry! Born Oct. 25, 1984 BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #29
Hate Playboy but love that interview SharonClark Apr 2016 #21
I never liked them 2naSalit Apr 2016 #24
Can you hear that? SaschaHM Apr 2016 #25
That was a great interview! Thank you! Lucinda Apr 2016 #26
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
1. Is Maddow's show available online anywhere? Everywhere I've seen it has a paywall.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

And there doesn't appear to even be an MSNBC app for Android.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
2. I listen to the show audio on iTunes for free the next morning
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

Also I a lot of times find the show the next day on YouTube.

More info here:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-rachel-maddow-show-podcast

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. I think for about 8-10 months...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

Rachel toed the line on MSNBC, particularly regarding Bernie's chances for the Democratic nomination.

But now I think she is putting a public lean towards Hillary on display - where her heart was all along.

And now MSNBC is letting her lean away, as so many other voices have been silenced at the cable network. And Bernie begins the 'fade to black.'

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
5. Has Rachel addressed the "Democratic Whore" thing? I decided I can't watch her until the primaries
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

are over. If it were a Trump or Cruz surrogate, she'd be all over a comment like that.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
20. Not that I''ve noticed
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

Last night's show was more historical than current politics. Maybe she'll address it tonight.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
7. I only have Internet
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

... no teevee, and I watch it live here:

http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/?ref=fv
(And I found by pleasant surprise is that this link is to the International site which has only program promos and International weather! Far more watchable!)

along with the other shows I might decide to watch in the MSNBC evening set or else I watch, with annoying delays and popup crap (even with ghostery and my Firefox blocker on) but if I miss the broadcast I can still see most of the program at:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

I'd rather catch the live feed even though it's on two hours early for my time zone.

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
9. Some great quotes in there. Here's Hillary...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016
Moving on to the Democrats, what does Hillary Clinton need to do to win?
She has to avoid unforced errors. The political track we’ve seen a few times with Hillary is that when she’s ahead she gets a little loosey-goosey. When people start talking about her as inevitable, she believes she’s inevitable and sort of moves on to the next thing. You can’t do that. Hillary stops paying attention to the fundamentals of being a good candidate when she’s ahead.


So maybe this nail-biter with Bernie is totally good?

And so much more. I'm still reading. Love Rachel's incisive quick mind.

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
11. And more. Hillary and Bernie face to face...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016
You’ve spent time knee-to-knee with Clinton and Bernie Sanders. What are they like off camera?
It’s fascinating. I did an hour-long interview with Hillary in the studio last fall, right before the televised forum I did with the candidates in South Carolina. We had no ground rules. She had no idea what I was going to ask. When she came in, she listened to me so hard it felt like she was prying my thoughts out of my brain through my eyeballs. Hillary’s got tractor beams. She was so intently focused and had a ton to say about every issue. It’s the same way Bill Clinton would give press conferences when he was president and wouldn’t want them to end. He’d just be like, “Bring it on.” She kind of has that going on. She’s not that guarded. She has something to say about everything. She’s policy-minded—that to me is a nice form of seriousness in a politician—and has an ability to handle a wide range of subject matter. Very impressive.

But then, a couple of weeks later, at the forum in South Carolina, it wasn’t just us and the camera guy in the room. There were 3,000 people, and it was as if I wasn’t there. I would ask her a question and she would physically turn to the audience and answer. I was like, “Yoo-hoo, over here!”

Was Sanders like that too?
The thing that’s interesting about Bernie is that he is a freaking good politician, and he’s aggressive. We had a commercial break in the middle of our discussion because I wanted to have a reset. During that break, Martin O’Malley was hyperventilating. Hillary started playing to the audience again and waving to people like she was campaigning. Bernie was working me to ask the questions he wanted for the second half. He was like, “When we come back, are you going to ask me about…?” I was like, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. You’re supposed to be Mr. Socialist.”

Can you picture him being president?
Bernie Sanders is running this fascinating campaign where he’s all about people being angry and dissatisfied and frustrated. He wants you to be disaffected and frustrated about an economic system that keeps you from ever ascending the ladder. That is a great emotion to tap into for a politician but a hard lesson to sell in terms of where people should channel it. If that message works for you, it’s cathartic. People love him. They really do feel the Bern. He gets tens of thousands of people to turn out, but that sort of economic populism is a tough sell. The diagnosis is right; the cure isn’t easy. My prediction for Bernie: populist hero forever but hard to imagine him still being there at the convention.

creon

(1,183 posts)
10. good interview
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

I do have some comments:
Her remarks about Clinton are in line with my views of her.
The same applies to Sanders.
Gun violence: I agree.
NRA: I agree
I agree that there are discernible patterns in US elections
I agree with her about the GOP. They are blind kittens.
Police shootings: apply Peelian principals to police work:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. "she listened to me so hard it felt like she was prying my thoughts out of my brain through my
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

eyeballs. Hillary’s got tractor beams."

She's a SCORPIO. Of course, she's got tractor beams - just like my daughter and son. Two powerful Scorpios who stare at you when you talk to them (and yes, I feel my true thoughts and feelings being pulled out of my eyeballs) and who know your secret even before you tell them. Tough children to raise, though. lol

She was so intently focused and had a ton to say about every issue. It’s the same way Bill Clinton would give press conferences when he was president and wouldn’t want them to end. He’d just be like, “Bring it on.” She kind of has that going on. She’s not that guarded. She has something to say about everything. She’s policy-minded—that to me is a nice form of seriousness in a politician—and has an ability to handle a wide range of subject matter. Very impressive.


She will make a strong, powerful, fair, compassionate president, but also one Republicans will NOT want to cross!

For the zodiac aficionados:

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2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
16. A poiunt I have been reluctant to make
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

but it is so. Some of the strongest women are Scorpios, because they are the ones most commonly ridiculed, derided and accused of everything under the sun, guilty or not. I know the world all too well being a strong Scorp myself. I have always recognized why Hillary has the hate-fan club that she does, she's a strong Scorpio woman, that's really all it takes. The detractors automatically ooze out of the woodwork upon your arrival and especially when making personal/professional gains... the haters just can't have that, as if they have been waiting all their lives for the Scorpio woman to try and stand on her own two feet so they can try to knock her down with all the media (or ptb) present to witness.

And it is one of the main factors that help me decide that I will vote for her.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
18. I know a lot of people don't put much stock in zodiac signs, but understanding them has spared me a
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

lot of unnecessary headaches, raising two strong Scorps myself (both successful in their endeavors - son just became a sole proprietor and daughter is doing incredibly well as the top sales and marketing director for her corporations while studying for her Bachelors in Business Admin while planning to do her LSATs- and all of this for a 24-year-old!).

And contrary to the bull being perpetuated about her, Hillary isn't interested in becoming a billionaire - unlike Virgo Sanders, who is by nature a narcissist and a money-grubber (born on the same day as my hubby, so I would know!). If she wanted to, she'd be one today. No. She has a higher goal: "Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can." She wasn't kidding.

Scorpio women are the strongest women anyone will ever meet, which men don't like and feel threatened by. I have always said, if ever the United States elects a woman for president, she will be a Scorpio. Why? Because she won't let any man beat her at anything - and allow me to remind people, she got more in the popular vote than Barack Obama. He won because of his superior lead in the super-delegates, and she graciously conceded. I don't think Sanders will be that gracious.

Sanders, who is behind her in the popular vote, the delegate tally and the super-delegate tally is not even close to beating her. He's clearly NO match for Hillary Clinton.

How can anyone not admire a Scorpio woman like that?

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
22. How can anyone not admire a Scorpio woman like that?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

Well, from experience I can tell that those who see her as a threat, real or perceived, will do everything to destroy her, defeating her isn't devastating enough because she will do the "Scorpio thing"... when shoved to the very extremest depths of the muck at the bottom of the barrel, a Scorpio will still rise to the surface like a cork. been there done that about once every five years for half a century now, I know the drill.

jrandom421

(1,005 posts)
17. Yes, isn't it interesting
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

that her birthday is the day before Teddy Roosevelt's?

Hillary- October 26
Teddy- October 27

And there's been 5 Scorpio Presidents:

John Adams
James Polk
James Garfield
Teddy
Warren Harding

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
23. Cool!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

And her B-day is right after mine. We are having a strong year in 2016, as a Scorpio, this is Hillary's year to win the general election... and I think she will too.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
21. Hate Playboy but love that interview
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

Rachel truly can analyze a situation or candidate without letting her personal feelings get in the way. She is right about Sanders - getting people angry but offering no real solutions.

Salon is just one angry negative article after another and Daily Kos has bloggers who's names are equally negative - pissed off, angry, etc. They wear me out with their negativity.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
24. I never liked them
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

because of the exploitation of women, even when they had good articles. At least they have discontinued the nudes, this being the first issue without them.

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