Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumRachel Maddow Talks Hillary, Hate Mail & More in Our First Non-Nude Issue ~Playboy
https://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-rachel-maddowMore in link, some excerpts:
It breaks the glass ceiling, which means the next woman to do it will be the second woman. Not that it always works that way. Britain had just the one; Israel had just the one. You do see when other countries get a female leader, particularly an iconic female leader, it doesnt necessarily open the floodgates. It is unusual that were this old, robust democracy and pluralistic society, and we havent gotten ours yet. The gender achievement at the top in every single political representation really sucks. I mean, were super-psyched that we have 20 women senators. Yay, 20! Um, there are 100. I can do that math.
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Bernie Sanders is running this fascinating campaign where hes all about people being angry and dissatisfied and frustrated. He wants you to be disaffected and frustrated about an economic system that keeps you from ever ascending the ladder. That is a great emotion to tap into for a politician but a hard lesson to sell in terms of where people should channel it. If that message works for you, its cathartic. People love him. They really do feel the Bern. He gets tens of thousands of people to turn out, but that sort of economic populism is a tough sell. The diagnosis is right; the cure isnt easy. My prediction for Bernie: populist hero forever but hard to imagine him still being there at the convention.
Raw political force. The power of the NRA used to be that it held sway over Democrats in a way that was unusual for a right-leaning interest group. More and more, the NRA is just a Republican interest group. As recently as the Bill Clinton era and even after, in the George W. Bush era, a considerable number of Democrats used to compete on the basis of their good standing with the NRA. Democrats now compete on the basis of who is the most aggressive against the NRA. That hasnt leaked over into Republican politics yet, but Democrats have really changed. When Democrats win, the NRA loses. It was a brilliant strategy for decades to be able to keep its hold on Democrats, but it just pushed it too hard. I think Wayne LaPierre made them into an embarrassing organization that no Democrat wants to be a part of now. Thats really going to hurt them, but it will require raw Democratic political power. If the Democrats use their political might in the 2016 election, within four years the NRA could be effectively dead in terms of strangle-holding those federal issues.
Obama will go down as one of the more consequential and good presidents in American history, mostly because of what he did with what he was handed. Recovering from the Great Recession alone made me glad Paul Ryan wasnt in the vice presidents office trying to make economic policy and going, Hey, weve got to cut taxes for the rich! In many ways, Obama held the tiller firm and got us through a terrible time.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)And there doesn't appear to even be an MSNBC app for Android.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Also I a lot of times find the show the next day on YouTube.
More info here:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-rachel-maddow-show-podcast
On my office computer currently; I'll have to check from home later.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Great to know!!!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Rachel toed the line on MSNBC, particularly regarding Bernie's chances for the Democratic nomination.
But now I think she is putting a public lean towards Hillary on display - where her heart was all along.
And now MSNBC is letting her lean away, as so many other voices have been silenced at the cable network. And Bernie begins the 'fade to black.'
Tarheel_Dem
(31,239 posts)are over. If it were a Trump or Cruz surrogate, she'd be all over a comment like that.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Last night's show was more historical than current politics. Maybe she'll address it tonight.
Hekate
(90,787 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)... no teevee, and I watch it live here:
http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/?ref=fv
(And I found by pleasant surprise is that this link is to the International site which has only program promos and International weather! Far more watchable!)
along with the other shows I might decide to watch in the MSNBC evening set or else I watch, with annoying delays and popup crap (even with ghostery and my Firefox blocker on) but if I miss the broadcast I can still see most of the program at:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
I'd rather catch the live feed even though it's on two hours early for my time zone.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Rachel is one of the best of her generation!
Hekate
(90,787 posts)She has to avoid unforced errors. The political track weve seen a few times with Hillary is that when shes ahead she gets a little loosey-goosey. When people start talking about her as inevitable, she believes shes inevitable and sort of moves on to the next thing. You cant do that. Hillary stops paying attention to the fundamentals of being a good candidate when shes ahead.
So maybe this nail-biter with Bernie is totally good?
And so much more. I'm still reading. Love Rachel's incisive quick mind.
Hekate
(90,787 posts)Its fascinating. I did an hour-long interview with Hillary in the studio last fall, right before the televised forum I did with the candidates in South Carolina. We had no ground rules. She had no idea what I was going to ask. When she came in, she listened to me so hard it felt like she was prying my thoughts out of my brain through my eyeballs. Hillarys got tractor beams. She was so intently focused and had a ton to say about every issue. Its the same way Bill Clinton would give press conferences when he was president and wouldnt want them to end. Hed just be like, Bring it on. She kind of has that going on. Shes not that guarded. She has something to say about everything. Shes policy-mindedthat to me is a nice form of seriousness in a politicianand has an ability to handle a wide range of subject matter. Very impressive.
But then, a couple of weeks later, at the forum in South Carolina, it wasnt just us and the camera guy in the room. There were 3,000 people, and it was as if I wasnt there. I would ask her a question and she would physically turn to the audience and answer. I was like, Yoo-hoo, over here!
Was Sanders like that too?
The thing thats interesting about Bernie is that he is a freaking good politician, and hes aggressive. We had a commercial break in the middle of our discussion because I wanted to have a reset. During that break, Martin OMalley was hyperventilating. Hillary started playing to the audience again and waving to people like she was campaigning. Bernie was working me to ask the questions he wanted for the second half. He was like, When we come back, are you going to ask me about ? I was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Youre supposed to be Mr. Socialist.
Can you picture him being president?
Bernie Sanders is running this fascinating campaign where hes all about people being angry and dissatisfied and frustrated. He wants you to be disaffected and frustrated about an economic system that keeps you from ever ascending the ladder. That is a great emotion to tap into for a politician but a hard lesson to sell in terms of where people should channel it. If that message works for you, its cathartic. People love him. They really do feel the Bern. He gets tens of thousands of people to turn out, but that sort of economic populism is a tough sell. The diagnosis is right; the cure isnt easy. My prediction for Bernie: populist hero forever but hard to imagine him still being there at the convention.
creon
(1,183 posts)I do have some comments:
Her remarks about Clinton are in line with my views of her.
The same applies to Sanders.
Gun violence: I agree.
NRA: I agree
I agree that there are discernible patterns in US elections
I agree with her about the GOP. They are blind kittens.
Police shootings: apply Peelian principals to police work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_principles
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)eyeballs. Hillarys got tractor beams."
She's a SCORPIO. Of course, she's got tractor beams - just like my daughter and son. Two powerful Scorpios who stare at you when you talk to them (and yes, I feel my true thoughts and feelings being pulled out of my eyeballs) and who know your secret even before you tell them. Tough children to raise, though. lol
She will make a strong, powerful, fair, compassionate president, but also one Republicans will NOT want to cross!
For the zodiac aficionados:
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2naSalit
(86,775 posts)but it is so. Some of the strongest women are Scorpios, because they are the ones most commonly ridiculed, derided and accused of everything under the sun, guilty or not. I know the world all too well being a strong Scorp myself. I have always recognized why Hillary has the hate-fan club that she does, she's a strong Scorpio woman, that's really all it takes. The detractors automatically ooze out of the woodwork upon your arrival and especially when making personal/professional gains... the haters just can't have that, as if they have been waiting all their lives for the Scorpio woman to try and stand on her own two feet so they can try to knock her down with all the media (or ptb) present to witness.
And it is one of the main factors that help me decide that I will vote for her.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)lot of unnecessary headaches, raising two strong Scorps myself (both successful in their endeavors - son just became a sole proprietor and daughter is doing incredibly well as the top sales and marketing director for her corporations while studying for her Bachelors in Business Admin while planning to do her LSATs- and all of this for a 24-year-old!).
And contrary to the bull being perpetuated about her, Hillary isn't interested in becoming a billionaire - unlike Virgo Sanders, who is by nature a narcissist and a money-grubber (born on the same day as my hubby, so I would know!). If she wanted to, she'd be one today. No. She has a higher goal: "Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can." She wasn't kidding.
Scorpio women are the strongest women anyone will ever meet, which men don't like and feel threatened by. I have always said, if ever the United States elects a woman for president, she will be a Scorpio. Why? Because she won't let any man beat her at anything - and allow me to remind people, she got more in the popular vote than Barack Obama. He won because of his superior lead in the super-delegates, and she graciously conceded. I don't think Sanders will be that gracious.
Sanders, who is behind her in the popular vote, the delegate tally and the super-delegate tally is not even close to beating her. He's clearly NO match for Hillary Clinton.
How can anyone not admire a Scorpio woman like that?
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Well, from experience I can tell that those who see her as a threat, real or perceived, will do everything to destroy her, defeating her isn't devastating enough because she will do the "Scorpio thing"... when shoved to the very extremest depths of the muck at the bottom of the barrel, a Scorpio will still rise to the surface like a cork. been there done that about once every five years for half a century now, I know the drill.
jrandom421
(1,005 posts)that her birthday is the day before Teddy Roosevelt's?
Hillary- October 26
Teddy- October 27
And there's been 5 Scorpio Presidents:
John Adams
James Polk
James Garfield
Teddy
Warren Harding
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)And her B-day is right after mine. We are having a strong year in 2016, as a Scorpio, this is Hillary's year to win the general election... and I think she will too.
jrandom421
(1,005 posts)with another Scorpio woman
http://popcultureastrology.tumblr.com/post/118313632917/marvel-character-analysis-black-widow-natasha
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Badasses!!!!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Rachel truly can analyze a situation or candidate without letting her personal feelings get in the way. She is right about Sanders - getting people angry but offering no real solutions.
Salon is just one angry negative article after another and Daily Kos has bloggers who's names are equally negative - pissed off, angry, etc. They wear me out with their negativity.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)because of the exploitation of women, even when they had good articles. At least they have discontinued the nudes, this being the first issue without them.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)It's the bus revving up to roll over Rachel again once this hits reddit.