The primaries have become personal to Bernie and his supporters

[Yavin4]

Yes, back in 2008, that too got very personal, but not on this scale. Sanders is basically calling Hillary corrupt, and his supporters are taking his cue even further. Sanders and his supporters now believe that any opposition to him is either due to corruption or a rigged system.

I'm starting to doubt if this rift can be healed before the general election. In fact, some of these Sanders supporters may vote for a Cruz or Trump in order to blow up the system and usher in a Liberal utopia in 2020.

[artyteacher]

1. yeah thats like Nader...

It only ushers in wars and great recessions.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

2. Yes I've noticed that

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10825360

Sorry wrong link the first time.

[IamMab]

3. I don't think anyone that Sanders has attracted that is that anti-Democrat was going to vote with

us in the first place. I think they're a vocal minority, distorted through the lens of the Internet into a larger force than they actually are. Just look at the actual vote totals. Bernie's got 6 million odd votes in the primary, but do you honestly believe that's 6 million people who profess themselves to be dedicated progressives, that are going to vote for Cruz or Trump? Or sit idly by while either of them takes office?

No, I have to believe that the majority of TRUE progressives wouldn't do that. And that the loud contingent that does stuff like take over the comments section of every major liberal website is nothing but pretenders. Rovian astroturf with no basis in reality. I see no actual reason to believe they'll be influential beyond the primary.

[NurseJackie]

9. Exactly. Thank you.

[DesertFlower]

4. i'm extremely concerned.

i was blocked from bernie's group months ago -- not because i said anything bad about him -- but because i told his supporters who said they would not vote for hillary that they would be responsible if we got a republican president.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. It feels like Deja Vu 2000

I fully expected Gore to carry on the Clinton legacy and thought that he would easily win but I was shocked that he winded up getting out maneuvered by Bush and SCOTUS. I didn't fully grasp the "Nader factor at the time but I was incredulous that he thought that a Gore Presidency would've been just as bad as a Bush Presidency. Seems like some progressives have learn nothing from that debacle and may be primed to do it again- at the end of another 2-term Democratic Presidency.

[Firebrand Gary]

6. Sander's supporters on DU..

I lost all respect for the bulk of them when they hid Nance's post a few months back, that spoke volumes that we were not dealing with objective people.

The ridiculousness that is Susan Sarandon and Bernie & Co who even edge the conversation of voting for someone other than the democratic nominee are foolish. It will not usher in a liberal utopia, which we all know. It would do nothing more than install radical right wing extremist to the supreme court which will entrench conservative fail safes to ensure that they never loose another election.

[2naSalit]

10. ...to ensure that they never loose another election

More like to ensure they never HAVE another election. Won't have to because by the time they get through their first term, we will no longer have a democracy or anything remotely like one. yes, I know this is a republic with democratically elected body... one that these jokes want to drown in a bathtub. It's not the government they want to drown, it's the democratic process they want to kill.

And look! I got alerted on in LBN of all places for answering a simple question with a simple and honest answer!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141417945#post50



I'm surprised that I haven't been alerted on for posting the video of the Pope telling his side of the story. Talk about thin skinned.

[spooky3]

16. Actually, you may have been. I served on a

Jury that IIRC had to judge an alert on a post that included that video.

[2naSalit]

20. Nope

wasn't the comment that was alerted on. I posted it several times with little comment so I would not be an absolute alert-bait. I just felt that the Pope should have his say and those who were trying to reinterpret the whole event as something more than what it was should see that. And I have been on so many juries now that I expect to be on one every time I open a new page here.

[NanceGreggs]

7. I don't conern myself ...

... with the rhetoric that is posted here on DemocraticUnderground. (Ah, remember when this actually WAS a Democratic site?)

The BSers who won't vote for the (D) in November were never Democrats to begin with. They try - exceeding hard - to pretend they ever were in the first place.

The vast majority of the "I'll never vote for Hillary" posters would never vote for Bernie either. So the net loss of their votes is somewhere around zero.

It's truly sad to see DU turned into free advertising space for every anti-Democrat on the internet. But the Admins allow it - and have for several years now.

[Cha]

11. Yeah, it's not even on my radar.. They were never Dems.. the ones who would

stamp their little feet and vote for trump or write in BS.

We'll win our Democracy without them.

[Sparkly]

8. In other words, they're reading from the rightwing script.

Funny that he's been pretty rightwing himself on guns.

[Surya Gayatri]

12. Anarchists and insurgents understand that they must destroy in order to

profit from the ensuing pandemonium. That's their game plan.

"BERN IT DOWN" is not just a campaign slogan.

[MSMITH33156]

13. I wouldn't worry about it at all

Polling shows consistently that the Democratic Party will unite. If you actually go to polling places, even caucuses, they are generally cordial.

Social media and the Internet amplifies the outlier and makes it appear larger than it is. Bernie's coalition is not large at all. He, frankly, is not popular enough to cause a stink. The reason 2008 was a risk was that Hillary had half (more than half actually, but caucuses don't count votes) the votes and IF she chose to cause a stink, but instead, she was a champion and handled it with such grace that she diffused everything. She had almost 18 million voters.

Now, I don't think Bernie will ever exhibit that sort of class to champion Hillary, but he will fall in line because Bernie is about 1 thing, himself, and not doing so will be political suicide. Given the relatively smaller number of voters that he has to bring back into the fold, an even lukewarm endorsement will be fine. He only has 7 million voters, most of them will come back in to the fold or wouldn't have voted for the Democrat anyway.

[creon]

14. The internet

The internet is a place where a person can write an anonymous poison pen letter with impunity.
It won't be ignored and thrown into the trash can.
It may even be taken seriously.

Outside the internet, it is not quite the same.
DU is part of that internet.
The Sanders supporters who come here and hyperventilate nay not have any influence that is outside DU.
They may not even vote.

Jane Sanders - in a daily beast interview - did say that they would vote for Clinton if she were the nominee.

[liberal N proud]

15. They have set out to destroy Hillary

It's as if they can't have the Presidency, then neither can Hillary.

Immaturity could cost the Democrats the White House.

[geek tragedy]

17. Once we send his ass back to Vermont

the sane portion of his support base will come around. The Naderite/OWS contingent supporting him are with a few exceptions beyond redemption.

[KewlKat]

18. I guess I still don't understand how

the DNC was ok with allowing BS to run on the democratic ticket in the first place? If drumpf had asked would he also have been allowed?

[SharonClark]

21. We dodged a bullet by having that meglomaniac go gop

[pandr32]

19. Cultivating malcontent

This isn't a good thing for Democrats, and for fighting the Republicans for the Presidency and the Senate--for progress.