Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumConfirmed: Sanders is selling a fantasy agenda
The analysts found that Sanderss program is very progressive, jacking up taxes massively on the rich and providing a range of new benefits to the poor. Though every working person would face higher payroll taxes, the value of these benefits would leave 95 percent of households better off. They granted Sanders that his single-payer health system, in which the government would pay for everyones care and demand no co-payments or other cost-sharing, would expand health-care access and cut the growth of health-care costs, and they made aggressive assumptions about how much the new system would reduce drug and other prices.
But there is a massive catch. Sanderss assurance that he has a plan to pay for every spending program he has introduced to date is wrong. And not just wrong, but extravagantly so. Even with his large tax increases, Sanders would fall $18 trillion short over just 10 years. Factoring in interest costs, his plan would add $21 trillion to the debt over a decade. That is more than the roughly $19 trillion the Treasury already owes. And the picture would probably get much worse as time went on. Expanding Social Security, for example, would become much more expensive as more people retired.
Sanderss health-care plan is the big budget-buster. It alone would cost $32 trillion over 10 years more than twice the new revenues that Sanders would raise, Len Burman, the director of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said on Monday. When reporters have asked Sanders about the costs of his health-care plan in the past, the senator has typically responded that other countries maintain functioning single-payer systems as though he has not proposed a specific plan that should be assessed on its own merits. Burman pointed out Monday that other countries do not promise their people as much as Sanders does. Making his system less costly, the analysts found, would require doing very unpopular things. Deeply cutting payments to doctors and hospitals, for example, would induce supply constraints that is, a shortage of providers willing to meet demand for health services, which would make it harder to access care. Think long wait times and other hurdles.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/05/09/confirmed-sanders-is-selling-a-fantasy-agenda/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Hillary's plans are the only plans of any candidate that do not explode the national debt. They are also the only plans that work with - rather than ignore - reality in the U. S.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)In big tents and giant stadiums, with throngs of 'true believers.'
And we didn't buy this!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)He started with free college tuition and free healthcare. He knows that his followers are the politically naive and they have no idea about how he plans to do those things. They think a President can do it all by themselves without Congress.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)free, that they have to pay in their share eventually. But of course it's going to appeal to people at the most cash-strapped, asset-less part of their lives. That's why it's a good idea if it can be made viable.
What a shame Sanders didn't spend more of those long years in Congress developing real, viable plans instead of just carping at his colleagues about how wrong they were about everything. He knew he was wanted to run for the presidency for at very least some years.
Itm, boring ol' Hillary's working on making college affordable, just not free.
I want for today's young people what I had in the 1970s and 1980s in California. We were raising children and often cash-strapped, but I paid for full loads of semester-length classes by writing a check the same way I bought groceries.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)ignore this yet again.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)I can't see HRC going on his platform as the DNC may modify his wish list but he's dreaming if he thinks they are gong to fall down and bow to his wish list.
Thanks for posting
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)No such thing as free stuff...some one must pay...and then you vilify capitalism....and success....and think free stuff will magically appear...
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)the Berners. We've watched how "Math" has become the enemy. They don't do "Math", and they don't appreciate anyone who does. Does anyone here think there are any journalists who will tie BS down on these numbers? I don't think the media cares because "Math" is hard, and doesn't make for good rating$.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)They forgot to factor in how much we like the guy, the fact that he won 6-7 caucuses in a row, and the revenue of "Birdie Sanders in the White House" memorabilia. That accounts for at least 5 trillion.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)With the occupy group is Sanders base. Saying free tuition got the attention of college kids whether it was realistic or not.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I guess Bernie lied about that too.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,954 posts)The Berners are talking how Trump's guaranteed a win unless Hillary gets indicted and Bernie comes to save the day.
Cha
(297,184 posts)fantasy. burnie's the candidate that nobody can look too closely at or they find out what his platform is built on and what he's really like.
That's one big reason why Hillary supporters on DU have gotten so many hides from the majority of BS fans.. trying to post his background. They must not think much of him if they can't be proud of his past.
Thank you, SunSeeker!