Why is the Hillary group obsessing over a primary that is over?

[realmirage]

All the threads are about Bernie. Who cares about Bernie? The primary is over, and when the general heats up the Democratic Party will unify like it did in 08. The demographics show trump has no chance. Come on guys, you're totally falling for the bait being laid by an irrelevant candidate who has already lost. Move on for your own sanity. All is well, Hillary will be giving her victory speech soon.

Less than 100 delegates to go!

[Cary]

1. That's a good question

I don't know the answer but I am processing.

[Her Sister]

2. Makes sense! But BS keeps on going negative for Media attention!

We are human! We react!

[realmirage]

13. Avoid the trap!

It's all good. This primary has been over since March. And soon we'll have our first female president.

[BooScout]

3. Madam President!

That's all I have to say!

[realmirage]

12. : )

[Cornus]

4. Wrong

The primary is NOT over until AFTER it actually occurs...that would be next month!

[Cha]

5. BS has NO path to win.. so it's basically over for him. thank Goodness!

[stonecutter357]

6. it's over Bernie and his dumb ass bro's just don't know .

[realmirage]

11. If you believe math is real, you know it's over

[BlueCaliDem]

16. Bingo.

[Squinch]

26. Oh, please. Life tip: wishing doesn't really make it so.

[BootinUp]

7. There are valid concerns though

I agree that we should be focused elsewhere as Bernie has lost. On the other hand he is taking peoples attention off of Hillary's attacks on Trump, he is sewing seeds of disunity in the party and still affecting Independents opinions. I think when we push back against his most outrageous statements its not necessarily bad. Some of the people pushing back are respected progressives and liberals and even former Bernie supporters. This is all part of the process to eventually have party unity in my humble opinion.

[realmirage]

10. I see your point but there's a difference between

responding here and there and being consumed by the bait. This is Bernie's strategy; stir up all kinds of shit to get more leverage in his bargaining with the DNC, then endorse Hillary. He has already been saying this behind the scenes.

And I wouldn't worry about the independents. It's too early right now. History shows that when general elections heat up everyone forgets about the primaries. Except, of course, the irrelevant extremists who weren't going to vote anyway.

[BlueCaliDem]

17. Very well explained, BootinUp. Thank you. eom

[Il_Coniglietto]

19. I agree that we should push back, but we also risk

Getting consumed in it while Trump goes free. He is no longer being attacked from the right as all his challengers have dropped out. He gets the free ride that we wish Hillary could have had (once the math on the Democratic side got obvious to all but a few). The Republicans are regrouping.

Meanwhile, we are far too focused internally. We are letting others dictate and drive the conversation, but we can change that. So I say respond to the lies, but we need to remember who we are really fighting.

[BootinUp]

20. I agree, I think countering the poll characterizations v Trump

are important too.

[Fla Dem]

22. Totally agree, for him to be on all three Sunday morning news show is a distraction

And it sends a false message to those less informed and his "Bernie or Bust" fans that he still has a chance. HRC should be, and I think she is to a large degree, focusing her message against Trump. Bernie is that irritating fly, that is up to no good and feeds on dog poop that just won't go away. But they are eventually swatted.

Bernie is doing nothing but hurting himself. He will be persona non grata ("Person of no Status&quot when he returns to the senate. The even sadder thing for him is he'll be but a footnote in history; relegated to the ash heap of other potential spoilers. Even his loyal followers will move on, leaving him to flail away at the establishment as he's done for 35 years without any results to show for all his finger pointing and hand waving.

If there is violent protest and major disruptions at the Democratic convention, there will be no one else to blame but Bernie Sanders. He has incited and encouraged, has not discouraged, has not spoken out loudly and firmly against violent revolt. As a defender of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro and their revolutions, what does he think he inspires when he call for "revolution"?

[still_one]

8. While your point is good, the fact that a majority of the threads on DU are anti-Hillary make it a

little difficult to avoid, unless one avoids DU entirely

[realmirage]

9. I avoid all sections but this one.

Why would I intentionally read threads written to stir up shit claiming to support a candidate that already lost? I like my peace of mind so I avoid that trap.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

18. +1000 nt

[Walk away]

25. Sanders is working for Donald now and he attacks Hillary more than Trump does. nt

[BobbyDrake]

14. Total agreement here! eom

[BlueCaliDem]

15. Keep your friends close and your enemies *closer*. That's what's currently happening at least

until that petty little guy finally concedes to our superior candidate.

[asuhornets]

21. You are right..but the posts in GD: P, makes me so mad sometimes....n/t

[yallerdawg]

23. The primary is not over at "Democratic Underground."

The convention is at the end of July! That isn't "next month"!

Hillary supporters have had to endure an endless parade of vicious scum bile of rightwing-generated BS for over a year now from the Hillary Haters.

It's not about Bernie - it's about this sick obsession, tolerated at DU, to repeat absolutely any negative nasty attack - it's not OUR obsession.

[Walk away]

24. Sanders is acting as Trumps biggest Surrogate!

This is the General and Bernie is attacking our candidate and our party.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Because Bernie and Donald are double teaming Hillary and some of us don't like it.

[jamese777]

29. Take Solace In The Numbers...

and take the high road on primary election attacks that mean nothing at this stage:

Primaries' total popular vote as of May 20th
Hillary Clinton: 13,192,713 (55.5%)
Bernie Sanders: 10,158,889 (42.7%)
Donald Trump: 11,266,041

Clinton over Sanders: 3,033,824
Clinton over Trump: 1,926,672
Trump over Sanders: 1,057,152

Hillary Clinton: 1,775 pledged delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,499 pledged delegates

Hillary Clinton: 522 superdelegates
Bernie Sanders: 42 superdelegates

Hillary Clinton: 2,297 total delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,541 total delegates

Hillary Clinton: 26 contests won
Bernie Sanders: 21 contests won

Hillary Clinton still needs 89 delegates
Bernie Sanders still needs 842 delegates

[Iliyah]

30. Ditto, coupled with corporate media.

[liberal N proud]

28. Because BS has gone full attack dog

The man who pinned his integrity on running a "positive" campaign has suddenly decided to work for Trump in a much more vindictive fashion.

He is a sore looser.

[realmirage]

45. He's just trying to get leverage

for a sit down when they negotiate. It's just noise. Ignore it!

[jamese777]

31. The first two stages of grief and loss...

are denial and then anger.

[realmirage]

32. What I think some of you are forgetting

Is that we are far away from November. No one will remember what happened in May or June once the general heats up. Don't worry so much. Polls are meaningless in May. Most of what is happening now is meaningless.

[DemonGoddess]

33. Thank you for reminding us

that this IS over. No matter WHAT Sanders says.

[realmirage]

44. It is

[Buzz cook]

34. You do know that this is the internet don't you?

Arguing is what it's about. We should be thanking the Bernie supporters for giving us such a target rich environment.

[kjones]

35. I think we're just burning off all the pent up anger we withheld through the primary season...

I mean, what else are we gonna do? Throw chairs?

[anotherproletariat]

36. I think it is because even when she clinches on June 7, she is still going to have to deal

with all this negative bs from BS. It is infuriating how clearly he is just out to harm Hillary and build up his own ego simultaneously. Because he is not a committed party member, his behavior is not that of a fellow Democrat who wants to see a Democrat win in November. He clearly doesn't care about that, and because of this, most Hillary supporters see him as an enemy to be taken down.

We need to start spreading more of his own past, such as the horrible rape fantasy piece he wrote in the '70s:

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

[Mz Pip]

37. I wouldn't call it obsessing.

It's just a bit frustrating to watch the #BernieOrBust people flail around.

[Henhouse]

38. Gee thanks...I'm heading back to the knitting forum until November...n/t

[realmirage]

43. Sounds like a good plan!

Or at least til July

[JSup]

39. Probably because many of us are still angry...

...at all of the lies that got dredged up by people that were supposed to be on our own team.

[realmirage]

42. The vast majority of BS supporters aren't

fanatics. You're just seeing the handful of people who may or may not be trump trolls and libertarians. Those people aren't worth getting upset over

[33taw]

40. I think it is time to quit giving Bernie so much exposure and focus on Trump.

[realmirage]

41. I agree. At the very least just kick back and

take your mind off things for a bit.