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Sun May 22, 2016, 10:20 AM

 

Why is the Hillary group obsessing over a primary that is over?

All the threads are about Bernie. Who cares about Bernie? The primary is over, and when the general heats up the Democratic Party will unify like it did in 08. The demographics show trump has no chance. Come on guys, you're totally falling for the bait being laid by an irrelevant candidate who has already lost. Move on for your own sanity. All is well, Hillary will be giving her victory speech soon.

Less than 100 delegates to go!

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Reply Why is the Hillary group obsessing over a primary that is over? (Original post)
realmirage May 2016 OP
Cary May 2016 #1
Her Sister May 2016 #2
realmirage May 2016 #13
BooScout May 2016 #3
realmirage May 2016 #12
Cornus May 2016 #4
Cha May 2016 #5
stonecutter357 May 2016 #6
realmirage May 2016 #11
BlueCaliDem May 2016 #16
Squinch May 2016 #26
BootinUp May 2016 #7
realmirage May 2016 #10
BlueCaliDem May 2016 #17
Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #19
BootinUp May 2016 #20
Fla Dem May 2016 #22
still_one May 2016 #8
realmirage May 2016 #9
ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #18
Walk away May 2016 #25
BobbyDrake May 2016 #14
BlueCaliDem May 2016 #15
asuhornets May 2016 #21
yallerdawg May 2016 #23
Walk away May 2016 #24
DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #27
jamese777 May 2016 #29
Iliyah May 2016 #30
liberal N proud May 2016 #28
realmirage May 2016 #45
jamese777 May 2016 #31
realmirage May 2016 #32
DemonGoddess May 2016 #33
realmirage May 2016 #44
Buzz cook May 2016 #34
kjones May 2016 #35
anotherproletariat May 2016 #36
Mz Pip May 2016 #37
Henhouse May 2016 #38
realmirage May 2016 #43
JSup May 2016 #39
realmirage May 2016 #42
33taw May 2016 #40
realmirage May 2016 #41

Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:23 AM

1. That's a good question

I don't know the answer but I am processing.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:24 AM

2. Makes sense! But BS keeps on going negative for Media attention!

 

We are human! We react!

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Response to Her Sister (Reply #2)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:47 AM

13. Avoid the trap!

 

It's all good. This primary has been over since March. And soon we'll have our first female president.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:25 AM

3. Madam President!

That's all I have to say!

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Response to BooScout (Reply #3)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:46 AM

12. : )

 

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:27 AM

4. Wrong

The primary is NOT over until AFTER it actually occurs...that would be next month!

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Response to Cornus (Reply #4)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:30 AM

5. BS has NO path to win.. so it's basically over for him. thank Goodness!

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Response to Cornus (Reply #4)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:33 AM

6. it's over Bernie and his dumb ass bro's just don't know .

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Response to Cornus (Reply #4)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:44 AM

11. If you believe math is real, you know it's over

 

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Response to realmirage (Reply #11)

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:12 AM

16. Bingo.

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Response to Cornus (Reply #4)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:02 PM

26. Oh, please. Life tip: wishing doesn't really make it so.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:34 AM

7. There are valid concerns though

I agree that we should be focused elsewhere as Bernie has lost. On the other hand he is taking peoples attention off of Hillary's attacks on Trump, he is sewing seeds of disunity in the party and still affecting Independents opinions. I think when we push back against his most outrageous statements its not necessarily bad. Some of the people pushing back are respected progressives and liberals and even former Bernie supporters. This is all part of the process to eventually have party unity in my humble opinion.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:43 AM

10. I see your point but there's a difference between

 

responding here and there and being consumed by the bait. This is Bernie's strategy; stir up all kinds of shit to get more leverage in his bargaining with the DNC, then endorse Hillary. He has already been saying this behind the scenes.

And I wouldn't worry about the independents. It's too early right now. History shows that when general elections heat up everyone forgets about the primaries. Except, of course, the irrelevant extremists who weren't going to vote anyway.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:13 AM

17. Very well explained, BootinUp. Thank you. eom

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:03 PM

19. I agree that we should push back, but we also risk

Getting consumed in it while Trump goes free. He is no longer being attacked from the right as all his challengers have dropped out. He gets the free ride that we wish Hillary could have had (once the math on the Democratic side got obvious to all but a few). The Republicans are regrouping.

Meanwhile, we are far too focused internally. We are letting others dictate and drive the conversation, but we can change that. So I say respond to the lies, but we need to remember who we are really fighting.

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Response to Il_Coniglietto (Reply #19)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:07 PM

20. I agree, I think countering the poll characterizations v Trump

are important too.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #7)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:34 PM

22. Totally agree, for him to be on all three Sunday morning news show is a distraction

And it sends a false message to those less informed and his "Bernie or Bust" fans that he still has a chance. HRC should be, and I think she is to a large degree, focusing her message against Trump. Bernie is that irritating fly, that is up to no good and feeds on dog poop that just won't go away. But they are eventually swatted.

Bernie is doing nothing but hurting himself. He will be persona non grata ("Person of no Status" when he returns to the senate. The even sadder thing for him is he'll be but a footnote in history; relegated to the ash heap of other potential spoilers. Even his loyal followers will move on, leaving him to flail away at the establishment as he's done for 35 years without any results to show for all his finger pointing and hand waving.

If there is violent protest and major disruptions at the Democratic convention, there will be no one else to blame but Bernie Sanders. He has incited and encouraged, has not discouraged, has not spoken out loudly and firmly against violent revolt. As a defender of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro and their revolutions, what does he think he inspires when he call for "revolution"?

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:35 AM

8. While your point is good, the fact that a majority of the threads on DU are anti-Hillary make it a

little difficult to avoid, unless one avoids DU entirely

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Response to still_one (Reply #8)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:40 AM

9. I avoid all sections but this one.

 

Why would I intentionally read threads written to stir up shit claiming to support a candidate that already lost? I like my peace of mind so I avoid that trap.

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Response to realmirage (Reply #9)

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:20 AM

18. +1000 nt

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Response to realmirage (Reply #9)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:59 PM

25. Sanders is working for Donald now and he attacks Hillary more than Trump does. nt

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:08 AM

14. Total agreement here! eom

 

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 11:11 AM

15. Keep your friends close and your enemies *closer*. That's what's currently happening at least

until that petty little guy finally concedes to our superior candidate.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:08 PM

21. You are right..but the posts in GD: P, makes me so mad sometimes....n/t

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:49 PM

23. The primary is not over at "Democratic Underground."

The convention is at the end of July! That isn't "next month"!

Hillary supporters have had to endure an endless parade of vicious scum bile of rightwing-generated BS for over a year now from the Hillary Haters.

It's not about Bernie - it's about this sick obsession, tolerated at DU, to repeat absolutely any negative nasty attack - it's not OUR obsession.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 12:57 PM

24. Sanders is acting as Trumps biggest Surrogate!

This is the General and Bernie is attacking our candidate and our party.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:04 PM

27. Because Bernie and Donald are double teaming Hillary and some of us don't like it.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #27)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:21 PM

29. Take Solace In The Numbers...

and take the high road on primary election attacks that mean nothing at this stage:

Primaries' total popular vote as of May 20th
Hillary Clinton: 13,192,713 (55.5%)
Bernie Sanders: 10,158,889 (42.7%)
Donald Trump: 11,266,041

Clinton over Sanders: 3,033,824
Clinton over Trump: 1,926,672
Trump over Sanders: 1,057,152

Hillary Clinton: 1,775 pledged delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,499 pledged delegates

Hillary Clinton: 522 superdelegates
Bernie Sanders: 42 superdelegates

Hillary Clinton: 2,297 total delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,541 total delegates

Hillary Clinton: 26 contests won
Bernie Sanders: 21 contests won

Hillary Clinton still needs 89 delegates
Bernie Sanders still needs 842 delegates

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #27)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:22 PM

30. Ditto, coupled with corporate media.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:20 PM

28. Because BS has gone full attack dog

The man who pinned his integrity on running a "positive" campaign has suddenly decided to work for Trump in a much more vindictive fashion.

He is a sore looser.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #28)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:19 PM

45. He's just trying to get leverage

 

for a sit down when they negotiate. It's just noise. Ignore it!

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:23 PM

31. The first two stages of grief and loss...

are denial and then anger.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:51 PM

32. What I think some of you are forgetting

 

Is that we are far away from November. No one will remember what happened in May or June once the general heats up. Don't worry so much. Polls are meaningless in May. Most of what is happening now is meaningless.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 01:56 PM

33. Thank you for reminding us

that this IS over. No matter WHAT Sanders says.

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Response to DemonGoddess (Reply #33)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:18 PM

44. It is

 

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 02:14 PM

34. You do know that this is the internet don't you?

Arguing is what it's about. We should be thanking the Bernie supporters for giving us such a target rich environment.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 04:08 PM

35. I think we're just burning off all the pent up anger we withheld through the primary season...

I mean, what else are we gonna do? Throw chairs?

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 04:21 PM

36. I think it is because even when she clinches on June 7, she is still going to have to deal

 

with all this negative bs from BS. It is infuriating how clearly he is just out to harm Hillary and build up his own ego simultaneously. Because he is not a committed party member, his behavior is not that of a fellow Democrat who wants to see a Democrat win in November. He clearly doesn't care about that, and because of this, most Hillary supporters see him as an enemy to be taken down.

We need to start spreading more of his own past, such as the horrible rape fantasy piece he wrote in the '70s:

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 04:23 PM

37. I wouldn't call it obsessing.

It's just a bit frustrating to watch the #BernieOrBust people flail around.

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 04:25 PM

38. Gee thanks...I'm heading back to the knitting forum until November...n/t

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Response to Henhouse (Reply #38)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:16 PM

43. Sounds like a good plan!

 

Or at least til July

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 06:03 PM

39. Probably because many of us are still angry...

...at all of the lies that got dredged up by people that were supposed to be on our own team.

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Response to JSup (Reply #39)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:16 PM

42. The vast majority of BS supporters aren't

 

fanatics. You're just seeing the handful of people who may or may not be trump trolls and libertarians. Those people aren't worth getting upset over

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Response to realmirage (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:16 PM

40. I think it is time to quit giving Bernie so much exposure and focus on Trump.

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Response to 33taw (Reply #40)

Sun May 22, 2016, 10:12 PM

41. I agree. At the very least just kick back and

 

take your mind off things for a bit.

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