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Related: About this forumSen. Boxer to Sanders: 'You can't just diss everybody' backing Clinton
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/barbara-boxer-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-223772Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) sharply criticized Bernie Sanders on Wednesday for lumping her and Jerry Brown into the "establishment" wing of the Democratic Party after the California governor announced the previous day that he, along with Boxer and other high-ranking California lawmakers, would be supporting Hillary Clinton.
"For Bernie to say that Jerry Brown is establishment is kind of the biggest joke of the day," said Boxer, a top Clinton ally in the Senate, in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" to promote her latest book, "The Art of Tough."
Sanders on Tuesday told reporters that he has "taken on the entire Democratic establishment" in each state that he has contested in the primary process.
"Its not surprising to me that, you know, we will have the Democratic establishment supporting Hillary Clinton," Sanders said Tuesday, according to the Sacramento Bee's account, "I like Jerry Brown, but people can make their own choices.
As far as Sanders calling Boxer an establishment figure, the senator who has served 23 years alongside her colleague from Vermont invited viewers to read her book to see that she has "fought ... a lot of the establishment my entire life."
"Just because you are supporting Hillary doesn't mean you are, quote, the establishment. It means you are progressive and you want to see her [as president]," Boxer said. "She is so qualified for this post. She is just what we need. I love Bernie, hes my friend for a long time. But you can't just diss everybody who supports Hillary Clinton."
BS dismiss..everybody' backing Clinton..to bad she is qualified to be the president and the only one in 2016...and will be....
JustAnotherGen
(31,980 posts)And Jerry Brown.
I'm voting for Clinton next Tuesday and there's nothing anyone in that campaign or its supporters can do to stop me.
Defiance starts at the voting booth.
Watch me defy Sanders.
Cha
(297,890 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,980 posts)Where our votes matter.
Cha
(297,890 posts)who care about Democracy~
Walk away
(9,494 posts)I want to make sure that my vote is one of the votes that puts her over the top and wins the nomination!
It's so exciting
brer cat
(24,630 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)liberal N proud
(60,349 posts)No longer about issues but ridiculing anyone who doesn't feel the bern and reassuring his supporters he is still in it.
Cha
(297,890 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)dissing a popular Governor ....and sanders followers piling on accusing brown of everything under the sun...mostly likely gives hillary a victory..
thanks to sanders and his followers for insuring that
Cha
(297,890 posts)you're suddenly not pure enough for the oh so pure burnie.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the attention he has been given is the first time in his life....and for the most part...sanders has been given a free ride that no media has really done any vetting of his 40 years of ranting socialism...that would turn off many americans with his unfettered criticisms of capitalism, business, wealthy, success....constant unending....and the fact he has no meaningful legislative accomplishments in spite of decades in congress...
no...I think bernie is strictly ego driven and won't give it up....june 16th can't get here soon enough
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Senator Boxer is right!
Does Bernie have to take every endorsement of Hillary so negatively and personally? He has the most sour and discouraging disposition of any candidate in recent memory. No wonder his supporters are demoralized and disaffected. And, I blame him for the quagmire of fear and despondency in which they now find themselves. A leader and a uniter he is not. When you compare him to Obama and Hillary, the differences could not be more striking.
Hillary and Obama are positive, uplifting and in synch!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)CANT WAIT UNTIL THEY CAMPAIGN TOGETHER !!!!!
We voted for Bill twice when he ran,and Obama twice its Dems or nothing and I cant see where BS is for our party....never did...
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Like people in similar waveleghts!
still_one
(92,486 posts)otherwise you are against me"
Sanders and his campaign have dissed any person or group that has endorsed Hillary. Anyone who doesn't support him, he views them as the "establishment".
It is a code word many of them use to denote "3rd way Democrats, corporatists, republicans, etc". Hell, I am surprised they haven't joined the ranks of Michelle Bachman, and referred to the Democratic party as the "democrat" party.
When he makes comments like, "corporations have destroyed the moral fabric of America", is this the kind of person who will actually work with everyone?
In his NY Daily News interview when he promised to break of banks within his first year as President, whether Congress likes it or not,
either demonstrates his lack of knowledge of how the government works, or he is lying. It is this kind of sloppiness about details that have encompassed his entire campaign.
What Boxer is saying is right, but it doesn't just apply to Democrats he doesn't care for, it applies everyone who doesn't agree with him.
Many here have been bashing the Obama administration from the start. The ACA is the perfect example. While the ACA may not be the panacea that many were looking for, it was a significant beginning. While single payer, or a public option would have been wonderful, some do not seem to comprehend that Congress would have never passed it. NOT one republican voted for the ACA, and the blue dog Democrats made it very clear they would not support a public option or single payer. Which part of, "they didn't have the votes", don't they understand. President Obama realized this, and also realized that there was a very limited time to get something done, before the midterm elections. I remember the nay-sayers here saying that it is better to have nothing than the ACA. Really. Tell that to the those who were uninsured that can now get healthcare insurance, many with a subsidy Tell that to those who were added to the roles because of expanded Medicaid, or the uninsured children who are now covered. Ironically, Vermont itself couldn't get single payer off the ground.
Talk is cheap Mr. Sanders.
brer cat
(24,630 posts)still_one
(92,486 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)for single payer.. but all he does is rage on what it isn't .. not talking about how beneficial it's been for so many people.
Like you pointed out so well.. BS is a divider.. no wonder he lost.
still_one
(92,486 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)And, we got it and it made the President so happy because he is a man of vision and knows that it will only grow and grow.. and that's it's not unworthy just because it isn't instant single payer.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)You can not go into a oval office as president and just rip everything we accomplish and start from beginning......plus he doesn't even know his own plan...who would run the show of course the Tea Party with him in office...
LisaM
(27,848 posts)This is getting ridiculous.
brush
(53,949 posts)"The Sanders campaign committed a series of fatal strategic errors mostly attributable to incompetent staff work and an unforgivable lack of preparation against the Clinton Machine.
Among the bullet points in the campaigns post-mortem, we cant help but to note that Bernie & Company mistakenly went negative against Hillary, unnecessarily careening onto and embracing the low-road. Bernie, meanwhile, deeply excoriated the Democratic Party establishment and the superdelegate system, only to circle back, groveling now for establishment support after its too late. The Bernie get-out-the-vote effort failed to turn impressively massive rally crowds into actual votes, time and time again. Bernie himself stoked discontent and conspiracy-mongering within the party by misleading his supporters about delegate math while also failing to properly educate his ground-game activists about voter-registration and primary rules state-to-state.
Perhaps his deadliest error occurred when he pledged to run his campaign solely on individual donations famously averaging $27 when, in a general election matchup, he wouldve suddenly confronted a stratospheric pile of GOP cash that wouldve invariably crushed his chances unless he backpedaled. The list goes on and on. And now hes willing to participate in a stunt a debate between the GOP winner and the Democratic loser. A political exhibition bout.
These are all factors to take into consideration, and a farcical stunt-debate between Bernie and Trump wouldnt have ameliorated Bernies self-inflicted damage, nor would it have sufficed as a last-minute Hail Mary. At the end of the day, it only wouldve managed to illustrate how a failed Democratic candidate was just as willing as Trump to debase himself within the idiocratic narrative."
Bob Cesca is a regular contributor to Salon.com.