Hillary not supporting TPP

[msrizzo]

Hillary opposes TPP

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/hillary-clinton-says-she-does-not-support-trans-pacific-partnership/

I am only posting this here because I don't post things in any of the other threads anymore. If anyone wants to post it elsewhere feel free.

[stonecutter357]

1. K&R!

[riversedge]

2. Clinton's announcement against TPP (nod to labor) lands minutes before Biden takes stage to talk to

I just logged on a bit ago and saw the TPP notice and then saw this. te he.


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Paul Kane ?@pkcapitol 35m35 minutes ago

Clinton's announcement against TPP (nod to labor) lands minutes before Biden takes stage to talk to labor leaders at White House summit.

[riversedge]

3. !!! Biden jokes at WH summit moments ago: "If I don't move I'll be

umm. wonder what 'moved' means???

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Mark Ramos ?@MRMark5 22m22 minutes ago

Heh. #shotsfired RT @Acosta: !!! Biden jokes at WH summit moments ago: "If I don't move I'll be demoted to Secretary of State or something."

[msrizzo]

4. Must be an inside joke.

I don't get it either except that it seems to be a jab at HRC.

[yallerdawg]

5. No Democrat can go wrong opposing TPP.

One of the major legs of the Party is Labor, still.

Hillary's 'opposition' is confirmation of what she has said all along.

You can bet the majority of our DU'ers will not believe her or the facts, it never mattered which side she came down on...

However, from PBS link:

Opponents will (and have already) loudly claim that, if ratified, the Trans-Pacific Partnership will reduce U.S. wages, cost U.S. jobs, jeopardize lives abroad and enable predatory corporations to resemble the dinosaurs in Jurassic World. We profoundly disagree with each of these claims. According to sound econometric estimates, the benefits to America from the Trans-Pacific Partnership will outweigh the costs to dislocated workers by more than 20 to one, and there is scant evidence that expanded trade depresses wages for the vast US workforce numbering 140 million. Nor is there any substantial evidence that trade agreements will deprive sick persons abroad of essential pharmaceuticals. But those debates are script for another day.

[Tommy2Tone]

6. I think she hurt herself here

If she was against it then she should have come out earlier. I believe her to be sincere but I fear it will come across as something else.

[yallerdawg]

7. I think she's good.

Despite the propaganda we will hear, Hillary has always said she would weigh in on these issues when she felt it was appropriate.

She worked for President Obama and was a loyal and effective Secretary of State. TPP and Keystone are issues that will be resolved by Obama and Congress. Her opinion matters no more than anyone else's except for a few (since she isn't a voting member of Congress like some).

She is not running against Obama. She is definitely not running as a third term of Obama. She does not have to agree with everything Obama does now, especially this far out from her Cabinet association.

Can she possibly damage her relationship with the Democratic base by agreeing with the Democratic base on these issues? A portion of the base won't be happy with her until she is dead and buried so nothing she says matters, but most Democrats should be reassured a bit she is not the centrist corporate ogre she is portrayed as being.