Debate Winners & Losers (Bernie comment on race "massive gaffe")

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Per Chris Cillizza, Washington Post:


Winners

* Hillary Clinton: The former secretary of state came ready to fight on Sunday night. She kept her hit on Sanders's opposition to the automobile-industry bailout well hidden in the run-up to the debate to get maximum impact when she dropped it on his head. Ditto her attack on him being the lone Democratic-voting senator to vote against the Export-Import Bank. She is still not great when it comes to answering questions she doesn't want to answer. Her I'll-release-my-Wall-Street-speeches-when-everyone-else-does answer to a question about her high-paid speaking gigs was not very good. And she remains overly cautious as a candidate; when pressed on whether people at the Environmental Protection Agency should lose their jobs because of what happened in Flint, Clinton was unwilling to say they should -- a swing and a miss at a hanging curveball. Still, overall, this was a very solid showing by Clinton. On guns, on failing schools and on Flint, she was confident and effective.

Losers

* Bernie Sanders: The senator from Vermont had effectively walked a fine line in the previous six debates when it came to attacking Clinton without coming across as bullying or condescending. He tripped and fell while trying to execute that delicate dance on Sunday night. Sanders's "excuse me, I'm talking" rebuttal to Clinton hinted at the fact that he was losing his temper with her. His "Can I finish, please?" retort ensured that his tone and his approach to someone trying to become the first female presidential nominee in either party would be THE story of the night.

Put aside the fact that Sanders misstepped on tone, he also did nothing to change the underlying dynamics of the race. If you think Wall Street is the problem for much of what ails the country, you were for Sanders before this debate and certainly for him after it, too. But, as we know from the first 40 percent or so of states that have voted, there aren't enough of those people to make him the nominee. Sanders didn't knock Clinton off her game in any meaningful way, making the debate a loss for him. (Sidebar: His answer about white people not knowing what it is like to live in a ghetto or be poor would have been a massive gaffe if he was not as far behind in the delegate chase as he is.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/06/winners-and-losers-from-the-7th-democratic-presidential-debate/

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1. K&R!

[livetohike]

2. Sanders must not have visited Appalachia in his life.

Or the rural areas of the South. It was a gaffe for sure.

[NurseJackie]

3. Elsewhere on this site, someone argued that the TRUE SEXISTS were those who faulted Bernie ...

... for his "excuse-me" moment. (It made me laugh.)

[Thinkingabout]

4. The USA and world problems does not get corrected by Wall Street

He complains about Wall Street and he fund raises with Wall Street firms. He is a great friend with Lockheed Martin, another firm traded on Wall Street. He complains about Hillary's PACs but is the beneficiary of super PACs, one being Karl Rove's which runs ads for Sanders.

[Historic NY]

8. Its always the Wall Street, broken record.

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Bernie Sanders isn't always right!!

[fleabiscuit]

9. LOL, spot on. eom

[Her Sister]

12. that looks like some sort of flag!!

well done!

[Gothmog]

5. That was a weak answer by Sanders

[comradebillyboy]

6. Sanders came across as very anti-business last night

His willingness to see US auto companies and aircraft companies fail contrasted with his concern for the well being of gun makers.

[yallerdawg]

7. His spin on gun liability...

straight out of NRA dogma.

This in response to a man who just had his child gunned down in Kalamazoo, Michigan.

From Sanders on a national stage - "not much we can do."

This will not be our Democratic nominee.

[Historic NY]

10. Its not only that but millions of people have stocks or mutual funds

that boost their pensions.

[sweetloukillbot]

11. Or people who just work in the industry...

My wife does retirement portfolios and money management for a small independent broker/dealer. She lost her job during the collapse. We're lower end middle class and only just getting back on our feet.