Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumI think it's pretty clear (Hillary's Group)
That Sanders and Co. are trying to escalate things.
Every day now, there is some new level of fake outrage at something Hillary didn't even do, some further demand on her to jump through some new hoops they just invented, and a growing devolution of rhetoric and behavior (see Eff her buttons and the like).
My advice..don't take the bait. If you look at exit polls, her numbers in terms of Democrats "would be satisfied" if she is the nominee are extraordinarily high for a primary. What we're dealing with is not a majority and not a plurality of Bernie's supporters.
We're dealing with a very narrow minority who is lashing out immaturely. Those are the ones trashing Hillary, lying about her, saying they'll vote for someone else. But again, vocal minority, and very tiny minority at that.
And why is Sanders acting like this? That's politics, frankly. Hillary did the same thing in 2008. When you're behind, and not just in polls but in actual votes that have been cast by a large amount, the only thing to do is go negative and try to force a game changer. I don't begrudge him a single thing. He has to try.
This is especially true in a primary. In a primary, your candidates mostly agree. There is very little daylight between Hillary and Bernie on most issues...which is why it gets more personal. You can't talk about how their positions are out of whack, because you share them. So it necessarily shifts to the past and nitpicking minor things...and, unfortunately, to personal attacks. If you remember 2008, it got quite nasty.
But what we judge the loser (Bernie, in this case) by is how they handle it. When Hillary suspended voting on the Democratic Convention floor and threw unanimous support behind Obama, when she gave a rousing defense of him at the Convention, when she campaigned for him...she actually cut the legs out from under anyone who wanted to question not voting for him.
I expect the same thing from Bernie at the convention. Until then, this is the business we've chosen. It's nasty.
We should all just move past it, past him and his supporters. Hillary is doing a decent job, but I think she is probably engaging him too much. She could easily go fully negative on him. She has not called him a communist, ripped into the fact that he has no plans and Wall Street Speculation isn't even a tangible thing....but she doesn't have to because she'll win. He's going to get uglier, and she needs to just stay above it.
And we should as well. It'll make us all happier. Just keep building that delegate lead and rising above it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Better leave it at that. Had on post hidden yesterday.
nini
(16,672 posts)been there - done that.
The hate Hillary more than they love Bernie.. that is what annoys me more than anything.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)which makes me feel less than happy with this site.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)the more clicks the more $.
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)let's see how much they get from the young ones.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)From me.
Waiting for the hide in 3... 2...
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)One time rejected, twice ignored.
Very disappointing.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)"I expect the same thing from Bernie at the convention."
I would not count on that.
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)..but I guess that's where I'll judge him. Not how he campaigns, but how he concedes.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)his supporters on DU would throw him under the bus for selling his soul to ...fill in with the latest hyperbolic outrage....
MSMITH33156
(879 posts)or there will be a complete meltdown.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)without even looking at this site. The buildup of negativity had begun to take it's toll on me. I spent the time I usually hang out on DU reading and listening to music. My curiosity got the best of me today and I took a look. In that short amount of time it appears that it has become an even further far left wing echo chamber- It's the same posts, the same topics- same negativity, same hatred, gloating, an occasional "Bernie is so awesome" post. I scan all the posters on an OP that looks interesting and I mostly see rabid BSS. I'm wondering how many Democrats are even left on Democratic Underground. I think we all got a little taste this weekend of what an easy target a candidate like BS would be in the GE. I worry about our country. I am even more convinced that Bernie could not win in the GE and I'm concerned that the hatred spawned by the Bernie or Bust crowd could really hurt us in the GE. A lot depends on how BS and his hate filled followers conduct themselves when he concedes. For those reasons, it is even more imperative that we win back the Senate which I think is a possibility. The political landscape is as unsettling as it's been in a long time. I feel like Hillary's candidacy is the only thing between us and chaos.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)My great fear is that Bernie gets the nomination, the Republicans destroy him with bits of his biography (videos, speeches praising Castro, the Sandinistas, you name it) and we lose the Supreme Court and all the progress we've made including Obamacare and 17 million people lose their insurance. Not to mention Democratic losses in down ballot races.
That's my real fear. And all because a Congressional back bencher spouts promises that are impossible to fulfill to an audience of young people who are gullible enough to believe him. Ethics? Conning is not ethical.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)I can't take any of them or anything they say seriously, ever. She could release her kindergarten report card with positive grades and comments from the teacher and they'd find a scandal in it. Just ridiculous.
Waiting for the alert in 3 .... 2.... 1....