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Related: About this forumCan Bernie Sanders still run as an Independent after he is defeated at the Democratic Convention?
Let's say Bernie is defeated at the Democratic Convention in June, can he still run as an Independent to spoil the Hillary's chances to defeat Trump?
Cha
(297,211 posts)And, don't have a clue about the rest.
Light63
(233 posts)My concern is if Bernie can run as an Independent after being defeated at the Democratic National Convention, Trump as well as the Republican Party would have a tremendous possibility to beat Hillary in the General Election.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)He doesn't want Trump as his legacy - he is an honorable man. He will support Hillary and will campaign for her.
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)They both know that would be counterproductive.
2naSalit
(86,604 posts)happening. Bernie is a formidable opponent but he's a reasonable man and, as already mentioned, honorable. I appreciate that there really has been a stern challenge to Hillary because there are so many crucial issues to be addressed on day one of the next administration that if Bernie drops out, he will support the effort to put a D in the White House. I imagine that Hillary would do the same.
I am, so far, undecided but leaning toward Clinton, my primary is some time off yet, I think... now I have to take a look, this year has been whizzing by real fast so far.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)It must be after the convention, because the parties can only put their candidate on the ballots after they nominate her.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Light63
(233 posts)This video clip made me realize that Bernie is a good man who thinks for the whole instead of individualism.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)if you run in the primary and lose, you can't run in the general election as an independent
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)He would not win!
book_worm
(15,951 posts)kjones
(1,053 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)MSMITH33156
(879 posts)but it is really difficult to get on the ballot that late.
14 states would have had their deadline pass. Here is the full list:
https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016
If he actually wanted to go that route, his move would be to drop out now and work towards ballot access. The convention is too late. The hurdles to get on the ballot in states are actually relatively low, so he could do it. But he has to get organized and do them one at a time.
But he obviously won't do that.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Not enough time to get name on ballot...same issue with trump...no time left after end of conventions
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)He would need to file a petition signed by a certain number of registered voters by a date selected by each state.
States that require the petitions to be certified on or before the day the Democratic National Convention opens on July 25 (electoral votes in parentheses):
Texas (38): May 9
North Carolina (15): June 9
Illinois (20): June 27
Indiana (11) and New Mexico (5): June 30
Nevada (6): July 8
Georgia (16): July 12
Delaware (3), Oklahoma (7), South Carolina (9) and Florida (29): July 15
Michigan (16): July 21
Missouri (10): July 25
That's 185 votes out of 535...to get to 270, he would basically have to sweep the states he was allowed to run in. Presidential campaigns won't give up even one vote if they don't have to; giving up thirteen whole states' worth - basically, California three times over plus Illinois for good measure - would be unheard of and ridiculous.
If Bernie wants to be president he's got to win the Democratic nomination. Nothing else works.