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BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:08 PM Mar 2016

Reality




Earned delegates

HRC 1223
BS 920
sum +303 for HRC

Total Delegates

HRC 1690
BS 946

+744 for HRC

2383 needed for nomination

653 for HRC to win nomination. 1437 for BS to win nomination

2129 remaining delegates. HRC needs 30.6% of the remaining delegates for nomination. BS needs 67.4%
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Reality (Original Post) BainsBane Mar 2016 OP
It's over. I wish people would stop flooding my livetohike Mar 2016 #1
Oh Gawd--me too! pandr32 Mar 2016 #22
This times 1000 MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #23
Promises, promises, promises.... Fla Dem Mar 2016 #25
BUT, BS is gonna win all the remaining states by blowouts! Iliyah Mar 2016 #2
Nate currently has it as Hillary 1229, Bernie 933. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #3
These numbers are from the NYTimes BainsBane Mar 2016 #4
Do the news sites have all delegates accounted for? LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #5
I really don't know BainsBane Mar 2016 #6
Yes. Not much difference. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #9
He hit the target numbers that 538 sets out BainsBane Mar 2016 #11
62%? I thought it was 58%. I know Nate generated those targets. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #13
Not according to the Times BainsBane Mar 2016 #15
I like 62% way better. Do you suppose Bernie's being from Brooklyn LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #18
No. Clinton was their BainsBane Mar 2016 #20
But math is cold! Treant Mar 2016 #7
And now the campaign is suing the DNC --- LisaM Mar 2016 #14
Feel the Math, baby! mcar Mar 2016 #8
#feelthemath Chichiri Mar 2016 #10
Thank You! n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #12
Over on the "Other Side" they are desperately dreaming of Hillary being indicted!!!! Walk away Mar 2016 #16
Winning at all costs BainsBane Mar 2016 #17
Beauty! I love it! Cha Mar 2016 #19
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #21
They avoid math like the plague. UtahLib Mar 2016 #24
Can't help but wonder... Basic LA Mar 2016 #26

livetohike

(22,162 posts)
1. It's over. I wish people would stop flooding my
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

Facebook feed with stories on how Bernie could still win.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
23. This times 1000
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

He'll stay in until the convention, even though it's long been over. I don't have a problem with that. It's his right. His reasons aren't altruistic. He's an attention whore, and he's going to soak it up.

But can people STOP pretending like he can win? It's beyond annoying. The media, everyone..."well, if he just wins 100% of the vote on Saturday, it'll cut into her delegate lead, then momentum..." momentum is not a thing. Demographics drive this. And on April 19th and 26th there are 631 delegates in mostly closed primaries. He's going to get slaughtered. But for the next month, we're going to have everyone pretend that him feebly whittling down her delegate lead actually matters? SO ANNOYING.

Bernie can do whatever he wants, but the media pretending there is a viability here because horse race = ratings is just ridiculous.

Fla Dem

(23,741 posts)
25. Promises, promises, promises....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

First he promises amazing social changes that even he knows he can't deliver. Now he promises them he'll win the primary. At what point will he abandon the sinking ship and leave all his followers thrashing in the sea looking for a life vest?

LuvLoogie

(7,027 posts)
3. Nate currently has it as Hillary 1229, Bernie 933.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

So he got it below 300 to a 294 delegate deficit.

So tired of her getting trashed on this Democratic site.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
4. These numbers are from the NYTimes
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Politico and the Washington Post have the same, but I did the calculations last night. Still, I checked the Times before I posted and the count is the same. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html

LuvLoogie

(7,027 posts)
5. Do the news sites have all delegates accounted for?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

Is Nate more up to date, perhaps? I'll have to check the state sites. I would assume they would be the most accurate.

LuvLoogie

(7,027 posts)
9. Yes. Not much difference.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

But it means the anti-Hillary coalition might have hit their "had to" for the night.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
11. He hit the target numbers that 538 sets out
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

based on their model, but they haven't adjusted that since first doing the model. It doesn't address the percentage of delegates from here on out that he needs to win the nomination. The NYTimes has a delegate tracker that does that, but they haven't updated the Democratic side for the 3/22 results. As of 3/15, he needed 62% of earned delegates to reach half of all those earned delegates to be allotted. But even that wouldn't be enough for nomination because the requirement is 2383, which requires super delegates as well as earned delegates.

LuvLoogie

(7,027 posts)
13. 62%? I thought it was 58%. I know Nate generated those targets.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

And that they aren't adjusted. Nate has Bernie at 76 delegates (target+2) and Hillary at 55 delegates (target-2). 76/131 is 58%.

But I don't know what 58% versus 62% means for Bernie's "must do" on any given primary night going forward.

March 15th was huge for Hillary. If she can keep Bernie in the mid 50s through the next couple of voting nights, I'll be less OCD about this. I'm afraid I'm a political junkie.

LuvLoogie

(7,027 posts)
18. I like 62% way better. Do you suppose Bernie's being from Brooklyn
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

will help him more than Bernie making his political career outside of Brooklyn will hurt him?

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
20. No. Clinton was their
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:21 PM
Mar 2016

Senator and Bernie hasn't lived in NY in a half century. Also his anti Wall Street mantra is likely to go over less successfully in a state where that sector is a major employer.

NY is also a diverse state with a closed primary system, both of which favor Clinton.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
7. But math is cold!
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:31 PM
Mar 2016

I'm still trying to come to grips with the fact that they don't realize that differing opinions exist and that, having heard the bern, some of us are unconvinced or simply don't care for the message (or the messengers, sometimes).

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
14. And now the campaign is suing the DNC ---
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

neat trick - steal data, then sue the organization you stole it from. Hopefully this will get laughed out of court, if it gets that far.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
16. Over on the "Other Side" they are desperately dreaming of Hillary being indicted!!!!
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

The emails are their last hope (or so the mistakenly believe). They are so abjectly deluded, filled with hate and childish!

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
26. Can't help but wonder...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

...what the Republicans would have thrown at Bernie in the form of opposition research, or swift-boating, had he won the nomination. We'll never know. Meanwhile, Hillary is attacked from both sides.

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