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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:24 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton Slams Sanders Campaign ‘Lies’ in Confrontation With Activist

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-slams-sanders-campaign-lies-in-confrontation-with-activist/

by Tommy Christopher



Facing a close run against Bernie Sanders in upcoming primary races, former Secretary of State and current Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton is beginning to show the bare knuckles of the brawler she needs be to win. Following a campaign rally at the State University of New York Purchase campus on Thursday, Greenpeace activist Eva Resnick-Day asked Hillary if she would reject donations from fossil fuel interests, and Clinton laid into her but good:

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Hillary Clinton Slams Sanders Campaign ‘Lies’ in Confrontation With Activist (Original Post) MrWendel Mar 2016 OP
Bernies Liars.......... Historic NY Mar 2016 #1
Thank you for that link! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #3
I know that she's going to get called shrill or angry, but SaschaHM Mar 2016 #2
Here is another story about this. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #4
If your... MrWendel Mar 2016 #5
Rip carefully. sheshe2 Mar 2016 #12
And... MrWendel Mar 2016 #13
My one and only hide came from BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #22
Right now, Blue sheshe2 Mar 2016 #23
That is RIDICULOUS! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #24
Want a laugh, sheshe2 Mar 2016 #29
There is literally nothing that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #35
Blue, my one and only hide also came from a post in this group today. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #32
They're lurking right now.. they've alerted on and gotten so many hides in our group for Nothing. Cha Mar 2016 #30
+1 wisteria Mar 2016 #6
Does the Sanders think that throwing oil on the negoiations and making wild accusations will riversedge Mar 2016 #8
He's just hoping there's a little bird in the audience. DawgHouse Mar 2016 #15
They seem to have gone somewhat nuts, IMO. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #21
Bernie's campaign does lie. And so does Bernie. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #36
I think that Greenpeace may be playing fast and loose with the BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #37
I suggested that a different OP on this fix their misleading headline. LisaM Mar 2016 #7
Guess I grew up learning not to interrupt folks when they are speaking. It has riversedge Mar 2016 #9
The two chumps on MSNBC (Bloomberg News) SharonClark Mar 2016 #10
What's good for the geese is good for the gander. BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #18
I let it rip today as well. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #11
Exactly. Under Sanders' definition, oil companies donated to him too. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #34
Amazing, when confronted with the truth I wonder if this person will confront Sanders. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #14
If Bernie Sanders becomes president GusBob Mar 2016 #16
Sander's Gawker Team SaschaHM Mar 2016 #17
What a joke ... LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #19
Can we not simply get a valid explanation of why campaign donations by individuals are linked... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #20
For some reason, contributions over $100 require occupation AND employer. Contributions between.... George II Mar 2016 #25
Yeah, I've seen the articles about the FEC letters. Sanders or his campaign are slimeballs. nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #27
Demonization doesn't require personalization SaschaHM Mar 2016 #26
I'd love to see #ReleaseYourTaxesBernie trending on Twitter. nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #28
Good on Hillary confronting the lies.. Mahalo MrWendel~ Cha Mar 2016 #31
Now, if a man had said that, okasha Mar 2016 #33

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
2. I know that she's going to get called shrill or angry, but
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

I love it when Hillary Clinton hits back hard.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
4. Here is another story about this.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-campaign-lies-221434

The Sanders campaign's response has some of the qualities I have come to detest from it: snark, midsdirection and disingenuousness.

Sanders' campaign said Thursday evening that Clinton has relied heavily on donations from oil and gas lobbyists and again called on her to accept Sanders’ proposal to debate in New York ahead of its April 19 primary.

“It’s no wonder that back in December Clinton refused to agree to stop accepting money from the fossil fuel industry when pressed at a town hall, saying, ‘I’m not going to do a litmus test on them,’” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said in a statement. “If Secretary Clinton wants to discuss this and other important issues she should stop stalling and agree to a debate in New York before the April 19 primary election.”


What I have to say to this would get me a hide.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
22. My one and only hide came from
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

a post in this group. Nowhere is safe from the alert-stalkers who barge in, I'm afraid.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
24. That is RIDICULOUS!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:55 PM
Mar 2016


These alert-stalker types DARE to style themselves "progressives." They resemble authoritarians more.

Frankly, I am an old-style "liberal" and am very proud to be that, thank you.

Thank heavens there is an "amnesty" for the time being. Your voice is a powerful one, ss2, and it deserves to be heard (or read)!

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
35. There is literally nothing that
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

I can think of that would justify hiding such a thread.

Such fear not only borders on paranoia. It IS paranoia.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
32. Blue, my one and only hide also came from a post in this group today.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks to the stalkers, our group is not as safe as it should be.

Cha

(297,223 posts)
30. They're lurking right now.. they've alerted on and gotten so many hides in our group for Nothing.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016
Just so you know, MrWendel

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
8. Does the Sanders think that throwing oil on the negoiations and making wild accusations will
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

be beneficial for talking about the possible debate???

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
21. They seem to have gone somewhat nuts, IMO.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

Playing to the grandstand and tossing out anything they believe might stick. Not winning tactics, IMO.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
36. Bernie's campaign does lie. And so does Bernie.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:21 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie stated he wasn't going to run a negative campaign. And what is he doing?

Bernie's campaign lies about Clinton relying heavily on oil and gas donations. I would also include Greenpeace lying about it too.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
37. I think that Greenpeace may be playing fast and loose with the
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

facts about the donations it says the Clinton campaign has received. IMO, they are making some very broad brush assumptions to put the worst possible spin on them in a blatant attempt to smear Clinton and reap headlines for the organization and perhaps also for Bernie.

Such antics make them lose credibility with me. Bernie's campaign has already lost a lot of credibility with me and the little credibility it has left is fast diminishing.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
7. I suggested that a different OP on this fix their misleading headline.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

It claimed HRC was sick of being asked about "my fossil fuel money". She of course never said any such thing.

I expect to get excoriated but today is kind of my Stand Up For Hillary Day!

After the glaring differences between Hillary and her angry opponents were exposed last night by Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews, I decided that I could take a little bit firmer tone today too.

How would the Sanders people like it if we attended their rallies and started shouting misleading questions at them? I am not a Trump fan, but to some extent he has a point that it's not always his people who start these confrontations. They are angry, easily provokable, and respond in an unacceptably violent manner, but I don't think they always create the drama themselves.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
9. Guess I grew up learning not to interrupt folks when they are speaking. It has
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

stuck to me. I think interruptions are rude and bad manners. Simple as that--no matter what stripe they are. Silent protests by holding up signs is fine.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
10. The two chumps on MSNBC (Bloomberg News)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

said she shouldn't have gotten so upset in the rope line. I agree she shouldn't but it seems to be fine when the other candidates react negatively. No double standard at all.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
11. I let it rip today as well.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

Right after I saw two privileged white male sexist newscasters on MSNBC telling Hillary to cut it out I simply got online and sent her $200.

jftr - I inherited a couple of oil wells (1/8th int) from my Mother, who inherited them from her Mother, who inherited them from her Mother. They were drilled in the 1930s. Does that make me part of the fossil fuel industry? Hardly... I have also donated to Greenpeace.

I am so sick and tired of simpletons.

Go Hil !


SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
34. Exactly. Under Sanders' definition, oil companies donated to him too.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:00 AM
Apr 2016
FactCheck.Org in December found that Clinton had not taken any money from PACs tied to the oil and gas industry, or companies themselves. Employees of oil and gas companies, however, have contributed $307,000 to Clinton's campaign, according to the Center for Responsive politics, while Sanders has received $54,000.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-lashes-out-environmental-activists-n548816

So when is Sanders going to reject that $54,000? (Rhetorical question)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. Amazing, when confronted with the truth I wonder if this person will confront Sanders.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

She probably did not think Hillary knew exactly what she was talking about, good for Hillary.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
16. If Bernie Sanders becomes president
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

Putin will be back in the oil business and the price per barrel will skyrocket

Irony being no matter how much he taxes the speculative traders they will get rich, our enemies will get stronger and terror networks will soak us too

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
17. Sander's Gawker Team
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

Is already on the job with a hit piece. I can't wait until that site crosses the line and closes shop.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
19. What a joke ...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

running second in upcoming "races" (plural). Please. This is completely misleading and wrong.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
20. Can we not simply get a valid explanation of why campaign donations by individuals are linked...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

...to their employer? I've had to list my employer for every donation I've made, but that doesn't mean my company has endorsed or donated to Clinton.

Kick his ass, Hillary!

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. For some reason, contributions over $100 require occupation AND employer. Contributions between....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

....$50 and $100 only require occupation. Contributions below $50 don't require either, in fact I don't even think they require the name of the contributor.

Funny how the Sanders people constantly beat on Clinton's source of contributions but they can't document tens of millions of contributions at all.

Also funny is how the Sanders people talk about "foreign money" but they've been cited several times for accepting hundreds of contributions from people with foreign addresses.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
26. Demonization doesn't require personalization
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders strategy is to demonize and not personalize. By saying (hard working) individuals contributed, he undercuts his outright demonization of people that work in certain fields. He does it with wall street, oil, and health care. I have friends that were liberal democrats that went into Banking/consulting/investing after college (Yale) because that was the only reasonable way of paying student loans and making a nice paycheck for grad school. Yet according to Sanders, a man whose only steady job has been politician, they are the devils that are ruining this country.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
33. Now, if a man had said that,
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:58 PM
Mar 2016

in just that way, he'd be "firm" or "no-nonsense" or "assertive."

BTW, I lost patience with Greenpeace when they declined to take an active role in opposing the senseless slaughter of marine mammals.

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