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Public reaction to domestic violence (Original Post) Major Nikon May 2014 OP
are we supposed to believe that went on and no one intervened? I sure don't. bettyellen May 2014 #1
Believe whatever you want Major Nikon May 2014 #2
I didn't realize men were being killed in great numbers by women that it was some sort of crises... bettyellen May 2014 #3
Which simply provides proof that you should better educate yourself Major Nikon May 2014 #4
break out the real numbers why don't you? for all partners, or add the stats for whites... bettyellen May 2014 #7
I'm going to give you your first and only warning here Major Nikon May 2014 #8
Oh, I forgot we're not in GD......where derailing like an asshole is de rigueur. bettyellen May 2014 #9
So just don't derail like an asshole Major Nikon May 2014 #10
I forget, it is so commonplace in GD and I don't even know how I ended up out of GD. I usually bettyellen May 2014 #11
Not a problem Major Nikon May 2014 #12
It's real. rrneck May 2014 #5
WOW! troublesome_mind May 2014 #6
Apparently 40% is not enough. Behind the Aegis May 2014 #13
It's amazing watching people fall over themselves dismissing any problems a male may have. Inkfreak May 2014 #14
Yup. It's like saying... opiate69 May 2014 #15
Personally I find the statistics and number crunching in these situations to be irrelevant. troublesome_mind May 2014 #16
It's worse than not receiving the same attention Major Nikon May 2014 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #18
fail uppityperson May 2014 #19
Ka-boom! greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #20
intercede no matter what the genders are, violence is wrong no matter who is doing it. uppityperson May 2014 #21
Thank you so much for posting this. Darkhawk32 May 2014 #22

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. Believe whatever you want
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:01 PM
May 2014

Public violence against women gets the appropriate response. Violence perpetrated by women against men is a joke even on a progressive site like DU and even if it involves mutilation. Do you actually think it's going to be any different anywhere else?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. I didn't realize men were being killed in great numbers by women that it was some sort of crises...
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:04 PM
May 2014

Oh yeah, that's men killing. Women and each other. Ooops. You gotta work on that shit, seriously.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Which simply provides proof that you should better educate yourself
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:21 PM
May 2014
...in spouse murders, women represented 41% of killers.

Among black marital partners, wives were just about as likely to kill their husbands as husbands were to kill their wives: 47% of the victims of a spouse were husbands and 53% were wives.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/mf.pdf

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. break out the real numbers why don't you? for all partners, or add the stats for whites...
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:11 PM
May 2014

62% vs 38%. And intimate partners- 3 out of 4! You left that out by accident?

This is laughable, you trying to deny that men are much more violent in harmful ways. Guess what? No one buys this horsehit.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. I'm going to give you your first and only warning here
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:44 PM
May 2014

Nobody is claiming women don't get killed and injured by domestic violence in greater numbers. However you want to spin it you are still left with the reality that there's still a lot of men out there who are victims of domestic violence.

I'm not denying anything and you're being argumentative and frankly quite shitty with your tone.

If you want to start your own thread on some other domestic violence subject, be my guest, but you will not continue to disrupt this one without getting a time out for bad behavior. This isn't GD, and it isn't moderated like GD. You can either be civil or you can be show the door. Your choice.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. So just don't derail like an asshole
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:33 PM
May 2014

That's pretty much the only rule here. Other than that you can disagree all you want and you'll get the same respect you afford others.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. I forget, it is so commonplace in GD and I don't even know how I ended up out of GD. I usually
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

don't- my apologies.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. Not a problem
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:45 PM
May 2014

We actually invite and encourage respectful disagreements here and it's actually a bigger problem for someone who might have a dissenting opinion. That way the 'protect' in the protected group works both ways.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
5. It's real.
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:27 PM
May 2014
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/05/23/ad-day-mankind-violenceisviolence

http://www.buzzfeed.com/candacelowry/watch-how-people-react-when-they-see-a-woman-abuse-a-man-in

DareLondon set up a hidden camera experiment to see how strangers would react to seeing domestic abuse for ManKind’s #ViolenceIsViolence campaign.

Public perceptions of violence differ depending on the aggressor. People intervened when the woman was abused, not a few found it entertaining when the man is subjected to the same abuse.

I seem to recall any number of hidden camera youtube videos revealing abuse of women in public places. Is this any different?

troublesome_mind

(37 posts)
6. WOW!
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:52 PM
May 2014

I have to say, this struck a major chord with me. I'm against any form of domestic violence, but I agree that violence against men by women is not taken as seriously as it should be. I have witnessed it first hand, some played out just like the video but mostly verbal and emotional abuse. I have seen so many good men beaten down continuously by women verbally hammering at them and often times leading to physical attacks because the woman is not receiving the response she wants, be it submission or confrontation.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
13. Apparently 40% is not enough.
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:21 AM
May 2014

It was interesting to see all the laughs when the roles were reversed; not all that unfamiliar (see GD). There have been similar situations on the TV show "What Would You Do?". It is amazing how drilled into our collective heads that some kinds of violence are "acceptable."

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
14. It's amazing watching people fall over themselves dismissing any problems a male may have.
Sun May 25, 2014, 09:56 AM
May 2014

Just because it's not as large a problem as others in their mind. It's real liberal of them.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
15. Yup. It's like saying...
Sun May 25, 2014, 04:09 PM
May 2014

"your congenital heart disease doesn't matter, because I have cancer."

troublesome_mind

(37 posts)
16. Personally I find the statistics and number crunching in these situations to be irrelevant.
Sun May 25, 2014, 04:22 PM
May 2014

None of it is ok regardless of gender or age. Fact IS it exists and I do not believe female-on-male abuse is shown the same attention as male-on-female abuse.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. It's worse than not receiving the same attention
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:36 PM
May 2014
Female-on-male violence is a running joke, even on DU.

Personally I don't believe rape jokes of any kind are funny, and it seems as if people are starting to wake up to the idea that male rape jokes are equally as unfunny as female rape jokes. However, some of the same people who are convinced such jokes lead to rape culture, are ambivalent at best on the subject of female-on-male violence jokes. One has to wonder if it's just a serious case of the doublethink, or they simply believe in some warped idea that it's social justice.

Promoting the myth that domestic violence is almost exclusively one sided does neither men nor women any good when one considers the statistics on reciprocal IPV.

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