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unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:22 AM Jun 2012

Am I the only one who gets the feeling

the following few days will be a bit....hostile in the General Discussion forums?

I mean, with the whole "men say women lawmakers can't say vagina!" debate. I know when the whole abortion/contraception thing was brought up, I felt REALLY awkward to post there because some of the threads there were just...I dunno, hostile.

I obviously don't support Republican stupidity, but...yeah.

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Am I the only one who gets the feeling (Original Post) unreadierLizard Jun 2012 OP
I think lawmakers should say vagina, and I am 100% pro choice and pro contraception access. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #1
Well, so am I. unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #3
No. By which I mean yes you are likely in a vast minority here. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #2
Yeah it's gotten pretty intense 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #4
Sometimes it helps to keep things in perspective. noamnety Jun 2012 #5
I don't think anyone here unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #6
The dog who gets kicked when the master gets home from a tough day at work lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #7
I think a productive approach is reasoned reminders that we all want the same things. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #8
I wouldn't worry too much ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #9

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. I think lawmakers should say vagina, and I am 100% pro choice and pro contraception access.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:53 AM
Jun 2012

So, nah, I don't see a problem, personally.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
3. Well, so am I.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jun 2012

But when it comes to issues like these, I often see certain posters makings weeping generalizations of the male sex that really make me uncomfortable.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
4. Yeah it's gotten pretty intense
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jun 2012

adding in the heckler guy didn't help.

And, not that this makes it ok but for the sake of accuracy, that woman was censured for implying rape rather than simply for saying the word vagina.


“I’m flattered you’re all so concerned about my vagina. But no means no.”

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
5. Sometimes it helps to keep things in perspective.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jun 2012

Making it illegal for a woman to NOT carry a fetus to term when it's the product of rape vs. feeling a little uncomfortable in some threads because of the victims of that legislation are pissed off ...

Maybe letting people be angry about it isn't such a burden, you know?

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
6. I don't think anyone here
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:40 PM
Jun 2012

implied that women should not be angry. Hell, I think it's utterly buffoonish stupidity at it's finest.

But following the pattern of some of the threads in this forum when women's issues are brought up, it tends to bring out a few posters who like to lump in all men as supporting the "male privilege party" of the GOP, among other things.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
7. The dog who gets kicked when the master gets home from a tough day at work
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
Jun 2012

... may have a hard time keeping that perspective.

Letting people be angry about republicans attempts to outlaw abortion or limit access to contraception or generally being jackasses isn't the issue. We're all angry about those things.

The problem is what some people are doing with that anger. The point of politics is getting people to support your cause, not taking out your frustrations on them.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. I think a productive approach is reasoned reminders that we all want the same things.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:17 PM
Jun 2012

God, i flew all the way across the ountry for the march for womens lives... I have been a tireless advocate for reproductive freedom my whole adult life. When anger is epressed at some asshat religious right legislator, i dont take it personally. And are women mad at the men (and women) who would presume to tell them what to do with their own bodies?

Absolutely, and i dont blame them one bit.

I think the rational thing to do is delineate the difference between us people who support choice and freedom, and the puritans of all stripes who want to impose their decisions on other people.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. I wouldn't worry too much
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jun 2012

I'm sure Ann Coulter or Jan Brewer will say something vile to add to the din, and every gender can feel shame.

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