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Male Disposability (Original Post) MisterScruffles Nov 2012 OP
EXACTLY. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #1
I think I have mentioned here that my elderly father was abused...to death. Bonobo Nov 2012 #3
If you look at any metric by which one typically measures the health of a community 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #2
There is a good reason that no one is seriously pushing for the ERA. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #4
No more selective service 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #5
That is a nice fantasy world... wish i could live in it. Hemp_is_good Nov 2012 #6
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #7
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
1. EXACTLY.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:32 AM
Nov 2012

Video #2 is exemplary of the attitudes on the topic. The woman laughing at the idea that this might pose a problem for the guy and the lady in pink waving the "you go girl" metaphorical pom-poms.

Women more often use physical violence, and we cheer.... until he has had enough and she gets hurt.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
3. I think I have mentioned here that my elderly father was abused...to death.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:16 PM
Nov 2012

Old, weak and with a bad heart, she (his 2nd wife, 3o+ years his junior) knocked him down and broke his shoulder. She left him all night to lie in urine on the floor.

We were somewhat estranged but the next morning, the wife called my older brother to come pick him up and take care of him.

The next 6 months were vain attempts at rehabilitation. He never really recovered.

It was murder, in my opinion. Serious abuse at the least. One can only wonder how OFTEN that story repeats itself with no one knowing because men are ashamed to admit that they are being abused.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
2. If you look at any metric by which one typically measures the health of a community
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

men are not doing so great compared to women.

If you were to take the same disparity in suicides, work fatalities, life expectancy, highschool/college graduation rates, homelessness, drug abuse, incarceration, untreated mental disorders, disparity in criminal sentencing, etc etc etc and flip it around (so for instance if 4 times as many women killed themselves as men, or women represented 96% of workplace fatalities) we would dedicate endless resources towards fixing that problem.

You would literally never hear the end of it. Professional male athletes would alter their uniform to show support for women's suicide prevention. Entire months would be dedicated towards identifying young women at risk and getting them the help they needed. We'd dedicate large portions of our time in public schools towards lecturing on such issues.

But since it's *just* men . . . meh.

Man up and deal with it.



Because quite literally men are seen as disposable. A man would be berated for not risking his life to save his wife/girlfriend. A woman would not be questioned if she fled and left her husband to die. A man will be criticized for not running in to a fire to rescue a woman. A woman would never be harassed for placing her life as more valuable than someone else's. Men must never hit women, women are free to hit men as much as they like. If a man kills his wife we'll execute him. If a woman kills her husband we crack jokes and give her mental health care.

Equality would mean that the woman who ran over her husband recently because he didn't vote for Romney would be treated as an abusive spouse rather than a punchline and would be charged with attempted murder rather than domestic violence (would a man who tried to murder his wife get such a light charge? Obviously not).

Equality would mean that headlines like "112 people killed in the latest terrorist attack, including 4 women" would not exist.

Equality would mean that we dedicate the same funds to men's issues as we do to women. Instead there is a public outcry if a pittance is redirected from women's issues to men's.

Equality would mean prostate cancer, which kills roughly as many men as breast cancer, would receive the same attention and female athletes would wear ribbons to commemorate that (how many even know the color for prostate cancer awareness without looking?).

Equality would mean that when boys started graduating at lower rates than girls we cancelled all special educational incentives for girls and redirected them to boys. Rather than maintaining or increasing the financial incentives intended to help girls graduate.

Believe me: true equality would be a huge step down for women. It would mean a few more women get to be in the 1%. And that would benefit the average woman as much as the president having a penis benefits the average man: not at all. It would mean that the vast majority are subject to harsher penalties, fewer social services, and a shorter life span. That would be the direct impact of equality on the majority of women.

/by the way: that disparity, between men and women, on all those stats I listed is far greater than the disparity between whites and blacks on those metrics. Would anyone claim blacks are a privileged class in the US?

//To the members of the jury: I'd ask you please to look at what I actually wrote rather than what was written *about* my comment by the inevitable alerter. I can back each one of those claims with statistics. This isn't a post against women. It's a post against our double standards regarding gender.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
4. There is a good reason that no one is seriously pushing for the ERA.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:49 PM
Nov 2012
Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.


That's the full text of the ERA. There are a number of laws which will be invalidated by it, none of which benefit men.
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
5. No more selective service
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:12 PM
Nov 2012

Equal custody in a divorce. Same sentences for the same crime. Equal spending on social issues and education. Gender blind approach to domestic violence and rape.

Sounds pretty nice.

 

Hemp_is_good

(49 posts)
6. That is a nice fantasy world... wish i could live in it.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:35 AM
Nov 2012

and yes proper equality would mean women would have to start being accountable for their actions against men.
that'll never happen. Women seem to be very happy to be able to abuse men and getaway with it.
that's how it's been and that's how it'll always be.

under (and in) feminist rule men have no rights.

Response to MisterScruffles (Original post)

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