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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:29 PM

This post is kind of interesting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=229923

The previous poster posted a link to a prostitute (not prostitution) advocacy site.

The subject line reads, "Oh look, a man who wants to legalize prostitution."

So the obvious implication is that if you are a man, and you post a link to something that is pro-prostitute, it's not hard to guess your intention.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me that implying a man is or wants to solicit prostitutes is pretty much the moral equivalent of calling a woman a whore. The fact that it has absolutely no basis seems to make it particularly egregious.

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Major Nikon Feb 2013 OP
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #1
TreasonousBastard Feb 2013 #2
Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #3
Major Nikon Feb 2013 #4
Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #5
LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #6
loli phabay Feb 2013 #7
LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #8
loli phabay Feb 2013 #10
rrneck Feb 2013 #9

Response to Major Nikon (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:25 PM

1. It's a distraction by that particular poster

Let's ignore the site is run by women, because that's real problematic. It's gotta be mehnz up to no good again.

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Response to Major Nikon (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:29 PM

2. C'mon-- it's not that much of a stretch to...

think some guy pointing to a site promoting prostitution might have some thoughts about shutting down the local police "Johns Page" before his boss, wife, and brother-in-law see him on it.

But, making the accusation is a little out of line since we don't know, can't prove it, and it doesn't matter anyway-- perfect example of Aristotle's original ad hominem. Don't we hide things like that around here?

(Oops! Sorry, it's only some accusations we hide around here.)

This moral equivalence thing, though... Admittedly, if you think whores are some sort of immoral creatures, then one has to assume whoremongers would also be immoral. In that case, accusing a male of advocating prostitution without any evidence would be mysandry as sure as accusing a woman of being a whore without any evidence would be mysogyny.

But, what if one doesn't see anything wrong with prostitution of and by itself? Is "whore" then simply a generic insult for someone who does something for money, not love? In that case, accusing someone of being a whoremonger makes no sense at all.

In this particular case, though, just one side is drawn and it is once again the sound and fury signifying nothing.

(BTW, that site does address trafficking, sex slavery, and other such nasty things and seems to think they are bad when they happen, but doesn't think they happen as much as TPTB says it does. And to the extent it does, legalizing it will clean up most of the problems.)

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Response to Major Nikon (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:56 PM

3. GT, it seems, desperately wants to find a fight with some pro-legal prostitution activists.

He made that clear when he came into Bonobo's thread about dirty words and continually tried to make it about that topic.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:53 PM

4. I'm not so sure he just desperately wants to find a fight period

He didn't seem to be all that informed about the subject mater and when called on it he pulled the "Team MRA" label and used it in the pejorative. Not hard to figure out why the usual suspects are in his fan club.

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:59 PM

5. Its funny how, in all the noise about "unfair characterizations" as justification for continued...

(Um, "outrage" is out, so how about "angst"

Okay, yes, all the justifications for continued angst.. That particular oft and overused characterization continually gets a pass.

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Response to Major Nikon (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:11 PM

6. *whistles, looks at ceiling*

I did say elsewhere, some people don't have a clue what misogyny actually looks like, for all that they throw the word around like confetti.

Some posters just sound better on ignore. It's not like they'd listen to an opinion from a prostitute anyway.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:43 AM

7. this, yup even if someone involved voluntarily in the industry tried to tell why they do it

 

they would be ignored and told that they don't know what they are talking about and they don't realise they are being exploited. it's the same thing when porn is discussed or violent kinks, it's always people are being forced into it rather than realising some people enjoy the darker sides to sexuality.

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:44 PM

8. Reminds me of this:



Hi loli, good to see you!

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:51 PM

10. you too, hope you are keeping well.

 

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:13 PM

9. Some posters just sound better on ignore.

Okay, phrase of the day. I can go to work now.

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