Economy
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Ever sit back and read Economists expound on their "scientific" theories? You wonder how they can all be so different, and most of them so far off the mark, they bear no semblance to reality. Nobel Prize winners seem to be at polar opposites. Milton Friedman is a proven asshole......
From Scientific American. One of my favorites.
The Economist Has No Clothes
Unscientific assumptions in economic theory are undermining efforts to solve environmental problems
By Robert Nadeau on April 1, 2008
The 19th-century creators of neoclassical economicsthe theory that now serves as the basis for coordinating activities in the global market systemare credited with transforming their field into a scientific discipline. But what is not widely known is that these now legendary economistsWilliam Stanley Jevons, Léon Walras, Maria Edgeworth and Vilfredo Paretodeveloped their theories by adapting equations from 19th-century physics that eventually became obsolete. Unfortunately, it is clear that neoclassical economics has also become outdated. The theory is based on unscientific assumptions that are hindering the implementation of viable economic solutions for global warming and other menacing environmental problems.
The physical theory that the creators of neoclassical economics used as a template was conceived in response to the inability of Newtonian physics to account for the phenomena of heat, light and electricity. In 1847 German physicist Hermann von Helmholtz formulated the conservation of energy principle and postulated the existence of a field of conserved energy that fills all space and unifies these phenomena. Later in the century James Maxwell, Ludwig Boltzmann and other physicists devised better explanations for electromagnetism and thermodynamics, but in the meantime, the economists had borrowed and altered Helmholtzs equations.
The strategy the economists used was as simple as it was absurdthey substituted economic variables for physical ones. Utility (a measure of economic well-being) took the place of energy; the sum of utility and expenditure replaced potential and kinetic energy. A number of well-known mathematicians and physicists told the economists that there was absolutely no basis for making these substitutions. But the economists ignored such criticisms and proceeded to claim that they had transformed their field of study into a rigorously mathematical scientific discipline.
Strangely enough, the origins of neoclassical economics in mid-19th century physics were forgotten. Subsequent generations of mainstream economists accepted the claim that this theory is scientific. These curious developments explain why the mathematical theories used by mainstream economists are predicated on the following unscientific assumptions:
The market system is a closed circular flow between production and consumption, with no inlets or outlets.
Natural resources exist in a domain that is separate and distinct from a closed market system, and the economic value of these resources can be determined only by the dynamics that operate within this system.
The costs of damage to the external natural environment by economic activities must be treated as costs that lie outside the closed market system or as costs that cannot be included in the pricing mechanisms that operate within the system.
The external resources of nature are largely inexhaustible, and those that are not can be replaced by other resources or by technologies that minimize the use of the exhaustible resources or that rely on other resources.
There are no biophysical limits to the growth of market systems.
If the environmental crisis did not exist, the fact that neoclassical economic theory provides a coherent basis for managing economic activities in market systems could be viewed as sufficient justification for its widespread applications. But because the crisis does exist, this theory can no longer be regarded as useful even in pragmatic or utilitarian terms because it fails to meet what must now be viewed as a fundamental requirement of any economic theorythe extent to which this theory allows economic activities to be coordinated in environmentally responsible ways on a worldwide scale. Because neoclassical economics does not even acknowledge the costs of environmental problems and the limits to economic growth, it constitutes one of the greatest barriers to combating climate change and other threats to the planet. It is imperative that economists devise new theories that will take all the realities of our global system into account.
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-economist-has-no-clothes/
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Have at it, I'll be back later.
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts). . . and one who knows virtually nothing about economic theory, neoclassical or otherwise, I'm curious as to how economic theory would be altered if processed through that lens (soft science) rather than physics (hard science).
Hmmmmm........
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)Hundreds of dollars in car-service charges, meals costing $50 a head and overly expensive copying charges are among the expenses that a government watchdog is targeting in supermarket operator A&s bankruptcy case.
U.S. Trustee William K. Harrington recently filed court papers raising questions about thousands of dollars in expenses that several law and consulting firms incurred for their work on A&Ps liquidation. In bankruptcy, legal and other professional bills are subject to public scrutiny and court approval. Bankruptcy watchdogs like Mr. Harrington, who is part of the Justice Department, also keep an eye on the bills in what is typically an expensive process.
The trustees filing reminds professionals what kinds of bills are acceptable in a bankruptcy and which arent. Charges must be reasonable, Mr. Harrington points out, and detailed explanations must be provided to help the judge and others evaluate the bills rather than forcing the judge and others to embark on a treasure hunt for crucial information. Whats more, lawyers and consultants cant charge a bankrupt company for clerical tasks that are part of their firms overhead.
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Yeah. When was the last time a bankruptcy lawyer went, you know, bankrupt?
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)The head of trading at Morgan Stanley just confirmed Wall Street's worst fear
Ted Pick, the global head of sales and trading at Morgan Stanley, just confirmed Wall Street's worst fear: It has been a horrible first quarter in trading.
"The question is going to be, with the animal spirits having sort of disappeared here and the classic risk taking mode, whether we're going to continue to see this gapping around, which I think will look more like recent sequential quarters than it would like the healthy first quarter we saw last year," he said.
That comment is critical. The first quarter is typically the most important period of the year for trading desks, as asset managers move into new positions.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)because they know we'd have to change our whole economic model and that wouldn't bode well for the top 1%? Just wondering.
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)Conservatives are basically opposed to change of any kind. If they can't actually go back in time, then they want to stop timer and keep everything as it is now. They tend to be fearful, especially of the unknown. Since all of the future is unknown, they fear it.
I suspect this is one reason they like Trump: There's no mystery about him. He is what he is, and as horrible as he may be, they're comfortable with knowing that there will be no surprises with him.
Acknowledging the facts of climate change or any of the other effects of industrial pollution and chemically modified agriculture and so on also requires the admission of guilt and the taking of responsibility. Modern Republicans are TERRIFIED of admitting wrongdoing. I don't know if it's the result of generations of calvinist indoctrination that has filled them with fear of eternal damnation, but for some reason or other they just can't face the fact that maybe, just maybe, it's their fault. I think they know, deep down inside, that it is, and they'll do anything to try to persuade the rest of the world, themselves, and even God herself that they didn't do it. Really, they didn't! They didn't!
But what do I know?
Hotler
(11,445 posts)Thank you for sharing. There is a lot to think about there. Digesting it over night.
Hotler
(11,445 posts)Scalia is dead. Good!
Calls for a tall gin and tonic made with Navy strength gin and a slice of lime.
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts). . . until new president is in office.
Dear goddess, they don't even make a show of disguising their racism any more, do they?
Fucking assholes.
DemReadingDU
(16,000 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I don't have any champagne, but I've got lots of vodka!
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)Seeing as it's Valentine's Day and all, this might be the special occasion that wine's been waiting for.
kickysnana
(3,908 posts)So at the urging of my d-i-l on the 1s of the year I dialed back my anger at the monsters, criminals and idiots among us destroying everything, but when I heard about the SC knocking the legs out from under our Fearless Leader on Climate Change (better late than never?) I sent out a scream, spell, prayer, call to arms for the universe to please do something about this (if anyone is there).
Great reply.
Obligatory:
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Good long read on need for system change:
Like the feudal rent, the hidden tribute to the financial sector, the nearly 40 percent of consumer spending that is appropriated by the financial sector, helps explain how wealth is systematically transferred from Main Street to Wall Street. The rich get increasingly richer at the expense of the poornot just because of greed or the blind forces of the market mechanism but, more importantly, because of deliberate monetary/economic policies, which have steadily come under effective control of the financial oligarchy. Indeed, the very mechanism of money creation and/or monetary policy itself exacerbates inequality...
... Historical records show that debt cancellation in the Bronze Age Mesopotamia took place on a fairly regular basis from 2400 to 1400 BC. Ancient documents decoded from cuneiform inscriptions have led many historians to believe that the Bronze Age tradition of debt cancellation in the Near/Middle East may have served as the setting or model for the Biblical pronouncements of debt relief.
Careful studies of those records indicate that, contrary to todays perceptions (shaped largely by the influential financial interests) that debt cancellation may lead to economic disorder, as epitomized by the too-big-to-fail refrain, those earlier practices of debt relief were carried out precisely for the opposite reasons: to restore economic revival and social harmony by undoing the ravages of debt wrought on the economy and the overwhelming majority of the population. Freedom in those days meant real, economic freedomfreedom from debt bondagenot the abstract or hollow concept of freedom promoted today.
The type of economic freedom being referred to was the royal act of cancelling back taxes and other personal debts, restoring traditional family landholding rights and freeing citizens who had been enslaved for debt. These royal interventions ensured rather than encroached on general economic freedom [10].
Many critics of parasitic finance capital have called for a robust regime of regulation of the financial sector. Experience shows, however, that as long as the dynamics and structures of the accumulation of capital are left intact, regulation cannot provide an effective long-term solution to the recurring crises of financial bubble and bursts.
For one thing, due to the political influence of powerful financial interests, financial regulations would not be implemented in a meaningful way, as evinced, for example, by policy responses to the 2008 financial implosion and the ensuing Great Recession.
For another, even if regulations are somehow implemented, they would provide only a temporary relief. For, as long as there is no community or real democratic control, regulations would be undermined by the influential financial interests that elect and control policy-makers. The dramatic reversal of the extensive regulations of the 1930s and 1940s that were put in place in response to the Great Depression and World War II to todays equally dramatic deregulations serves as a robust validation of this judgment. This means that the need to end the recurring crises of the capitalist system requires more than financial regulation; it calls for changing the system itself.
Other critics of parasitic finance capital have called for public banking. The idea of bringing the banking industry, national savings and credit allocation under public control or supervision is neither complicated nor necessarily socialistic or ideological. In the same manner that many infrastructural facilities such as public roads, school systems and health facilities are provided and operated as essential public services, so can the supply of credit and financial services be provided on a basic public utility model for both day-to-day business transactions and long-term industrial projects...
... As pointed out earlier, provision of financial services and/or credit facilities after the model of public utilities would lower financial costs to both consumers and producers by about 35 to 40 percent. By thus freeing consumers and producers from what can properly be called the financial overhead, or rent, similar to land rent under feudalism, the public option credit and/or banking system can revive many stagnant economies that are depressed under the crushing burden of never-ending debt-servicing obligations.
Even in the core capitalist countries public banking has occasionally been used to save capitalism from its own systemic crises. For example, in the face of the Great Depression of the 1930s, and following the Hoover administrations unsuccessful policy of trying to bailout the insolvent banks, the F.D.R. administration was compelled to declare a bank holiday in 1933, pull the plug on the terminally-ill banks and take control of the entire financial system. The Emergency Banking Act of 1933, introduced by President Roosevelt (four days after he declared a nationwide bank holiday on March 5, 1933) and passed by Congress on March 9th, guaranteed full payment of depositors money, thereby effectively created 100 percent deposit insurance. Not surprisingly, when the banks reopened for business on March 13, 1933, depositors stood in line to return their stashed cash to neighborhood banks [11].
Similarly, in the face of the collapse of its banking system in the early 1992, the Swedish state assumed ownership and control of all the insolvent banks in an effort to revive its financial system and prevent it from bringing down its entire economy. While this wiped out the existing shareholders, it turned out to be a good deal for taxpayers: not only did it avoid costly redistributive bailouts in favor of the insolvent banks, it also brought taxpayers some benefits once banks returned to profitability.
Both in Sweden and the United States once profitability was returned to insolvent banks their ownership was returned to private hands! It is perhaps this kind of capitalist governments commitment to powerful financialcorporate interests that has prompted a number of critics to argue that one definition of capitalism is that it is a system of socializing losses and privatizing profits...
/... http://www.globalresearch.ca/financial-oligarchy-vs-feudal-aristocracy-the-parasitic-nature-of-finance-capital/5507512
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)DemReadingDU
(16,000 posts)Recent headlines...
2/13/16 This Time Is Different! by Pater Tenebrarum
Experts Agree: It Is Not 2008
Repeat after me: This is not 2008
Don't Panic About Stocks. It's Not 2008 All Over Again, Economist Says
Stocks Dive, but this is not 2008
This is not 2008 all over again
Why This Market Meltdown Isnt a Repeat of 2008
Forget About 2008 Sequel in U.S. Stocks, Economy
It's not 2008 yet but governments need to act fast
No, Markets Aren't Revisiting 2008
The Stock Slide: Why Its Not 2008
Conclusion
This time is different!
more...
http://www.acting-man.com/?p=43240
antigop
(12,778 posts)A slow, controlled correction of the financial, economic, resource and environmental excesses now would be serious but manageable. If changes are not made, then the forced correction will be dramatic and violent, with unknown consequences.
During the last half-century each successive economic crisis has increased in severity, requiring progressively larger measures to ameliorate its effects. Over time, the policies have distorted the economy. The effectiveness of instruments has diminished. With public finances weakened and interest rates at historic lows, there is now little room for manoeuvre. Geo-political risks have risen. Trust and faith in institutions and policy makers has weakened.
Economic problems are feeding social and political discontent, opening the way for extremism. In the Great Depression the fear and disaffection of ordinary people who had lost their jobs and savings gave rise to fascism. Writing of the period, historian A.J.P. Taylor noted: [the] middle class, everywhere the pillar of stability and respectability . . . was now utterly destroyed . . . they became resentful . . . violent and irresponsible . . . ready to follow the first demagogic saviour . . .
The new crisis that is now approaching or may already be with us will be like a virulent infection attacking a body whose immune system is already compromised.
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)Italys Banking Crisis Spirals Elegantly out of Control
by Wolf Richter February 14, 2016
How to dump toxic waste on the public through the backdoor.
Back during the euro debt crisis, while the ECB was buying government debt from Member States to keep Italian and Spanish government debt from imploding, German politicians fretted out loud about what exactly the ECB was buying. Among them was Frank Schäffler, at the time Member of the Federal Parliament, who in September 2011 said with uncanny accuracy:
If the ECB continues like this, it will soon buy old bicycles and pay for them with new paper money.
This is now coming to pass.
Italy, the Eurozones third largest economy, is in a full-blown banking crisis. Four small banks were rescued late last year. The big ones are teetering. Their stocks have crashed. Theyre saddled with non-performing loans (defined as in default or approaching default). Were not sure that the full extent of these NPLs is even known.
In other words, it's bad, really bad, but we don't know how bad it is. It might be even worse than that.