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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
Tue May 22, 2012, 02:51 AM May 2012

Did you know that Hilary Rosen, the Democratic operative who attacked Ann Romney for "never

working a day in her life" is the ex-partner of Randi Weingarten (together as recently as spring 2010)? Me neither.

But more to the point, did you know that Hilary Rosen "works for SKD Knickerbocker, which not only advises Christine Quinn but the Michelle Rhee/Joel Klein Student First anti-union operation here in NY State to supposedly counter the union influence ---"

Also "Rosen's firm, SKDKnickerbocker, represents Kaplan, and was instrumental in weakening efforts to rein in student loan abuses by for-profit 'universities.'"

http://ednotesonline.blogspot.com/2012/04/randi-and-hilary-rosen-and-michelle.html


SKDKnickerbocker is a public relations and political consulting firm. It has offices in Washington, DC, New York City, and Albany, NY. [1]. The firm employs notable figures like former Obama White House Communications Director Anita Dunn and former Recording Industry lobbyist Hilary Rosen...

In 2011, the firm was hired to coordinate a lobbying campaign called "WIN America" calling for hundreds of billions in tax breaks on corporate profits made overseas.[6] The firm was paid by Kaplan University to lobby against regulation of the for-profit education industry...

"It’s an open secret in the Dem consultant community that SKD has been signing up clients based on ‘perceived White House access’ tied to prior relationships and employment...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKDKnickerbocker




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Did you know that Hilary Rosen, the Democratic operative who attacked Ann Romney for "never (Original Post) HiPointDem May 2012 OP
wow, that's amazing I owe a May 2012 #1
The link is credible. The blogger is well-known in the NYC education world. HiPointDem May 2012 #5
Sorry, who is Randi Weingarten? sabrina 1 May 2012 #2
American Federation of Teachers President. HiPointDem May 2012 #3
Okay, thanks. sabrina 1 May 2012 #6
Hilary Rosen's lesbian partner don't cha know I owe a May 2012 #4
I see you missed the point, which is the fact that the ex-partner of the leader of the AFT HiPointDem May 2012 #7
this is fun ... I owe a May 2012 #8
I've known Weingarten's gay since she came out. I could give a rip. What I do care about is that HiPointDem May 2012 #9
not attacking gays, just your source I owe a May 2012 #10
She didn't stand up against charter schools. Or anything else. Don't know where you got that idea. HiPointDem May 2012 #11
only place i can find I owe a May 2012 #12
The significance being? Why excerpt that without the followup: "But more to the point, HiPointDem May 2012 #13
the point being... I owe a May 2012 #14
I knew she was gay when she came out. I did not know who her partner was, let alone that her HiPointDem May 2012 #16
+1. It's a good site, widely followed, esp by NYC area teacher-activists. nt Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #26
and now that i see you've edited your original post, i'm not a bit interested in "the gay thing," if HiPointDem May 2012 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #17
Is this RIAA Hilary? FrodosPet May 2012 #18
Yes... PoliticAverse May 2012 #19
So, you're responsible of the acts/thoughts of your spouse and Mass May 2012 #20
Interesting how you felt you needed to turn your critique into a personal attack. As for me, yes, HiPointDem May 2012 #21
No personal attack. Just a comment on the content of your post. Mass May 2012 #22
"Your world must be sad" = personal attack. A personal attack = disparaging the poster or HiPointDem May 2012 #23
Yes. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #24
That link doesn't say anything about Rosen working for Klein-Rhee and her other anti-union HiPointDem May 2012 #25
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
7. I see you missed the point, which is the fact that the ex-partner of the leader of the AFT
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:32 AM
May 2012

works for the education deform team.

 

I owe a

(50 posts)
8. this is fun ...
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:36 AM
May 2012

Ms. Rosen’s current partner is Randi Weingarten who happened to be a powerful union boss as President of the American Federation of Teachers.

Together they are known as a “lesbian power couple”. Both were invited to the White House State Dinner in March honoring British Prime Minister David Cameron in which numerous guests were openly gay.

What is interesting is this entire morning with all the massive media coverage, the press never mentioned Rosen was a lesbian. Now it’s widely reported but in the context of a new battleground, the “war on gay parents who adopt.” According to the Democrats, conservatives are now launching this war against Hilary Rosen because she is a gay parent who adopted.

The plain ole “War on Women” was so this morning.

http://www.redstate.com/6755mm/2012/04/12/who-is-hilary-rosen/



just found some good stuff on freerepuke, you want that too?

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
9. I've known Weingarten's gay since she came out. I could give a rip. What I do care about is that
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:50 AM
May 2012

she's been selling out her membership since day 1, and this is just more evidence of same.

You might check my other posts on education, and on Weingarten.

I'll make it easy for you:

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/11241859

 

I owe a

(50 posts)
10. not attacking gays, just your source
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:15 AM
May 2012

At a two-day education summit hosted by NBC News recently, the lopsided panels often featured Ms. Weingarten on one side, facing a murderer’s row of charter school founders and urban superintendents. Even Tom Brokaw piled on.

It’s nothing personal, really. Ms. Weingarten happens to be the most visible, powerful leader of unionized teachers, and in that role she personifies what many reformers see as the chief obstacle to lifting dismal schools: unions that protect incompetent teachers.

A combative labor leader who does not shrink from the spotlight, Ms. Weingarten has been fighting back. She issued a written rebuttal to “Waiting for Superman,” and she has publicly debated the film’s director, Davis Guggenheim, arguing that teachers have been made scapegoats. More to the point, the portrait of Ms. Weingarten as a demonic opponent of change — albeit one more likely to appear in a business suit and cashmere V-neck sweater, with a Cartier Tank watch and a red kabbalah string around her wrist — is out of date, according to many education experts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/16/education/16teacher.html?pagewanted=al

i watched them try to destroy her for standing up against charter schools just as your link was trying to destroy her personally, jmho

edit:

Did you know that Hilary Rosen, the Democratic operative who attacked Ann Romney for "never
working a day in her life" is the ex-partner of Randi Weingarten (together as recently as spring 2010)? Me neither.

from your original post above is no where in article you posted, so maybe that may have been why i inferred you were more interested in the gay thing? that you just told me you already knew about since she came out

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. She didn't stand up against charter schools. Or anything else. Don't know where you got that idea.
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:33 AM
May 2012

"My link" is trying to destroy her "personally"? You mean the blogger, or this particular article?

The blogger makes no secret of his feelings about weingarten's sellout of her membership. Is a retired teacher publicizing the specifics of that sellout an attempt at personal destruction? I didn't realize. I thought it was politics.

And you should know that what the NYT says about education is completely irrelevant to me, as their coverage is bullshit. It sells the storyline that the teachers' unions are protecting incompetent teachers (bullshit) and the union is "powerful" when the leadership has let the education deform train run over them without *once* organizing their membership to resist the nonstop, nationwide attack on teachers and public schools.

They can't/won't even stop their membership from being publicly scapegoated and demonized for all the ills of education. Powerful my ass. Complicit, in multiple ways.

And your initial posts attacked me by implying I was a Republican and a gay-hater, don't pretend they didn't.

 

I owe a

(50 posts)
12. only place i can find
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:44 AM
May 2012

Did you know that Hilary Rosen, the Democratic operative who attacked Ann Romney for "never
working a day in her life" is the ex-partner of Randi Weingarten (together as recently as spring 2010)? Me neither.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11241958

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
13. The significance being? Why excerpt that without the followup: "But more to the point,
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:49 AM
May 2012

did you know that Hilary Rosen "works for SKD Knickerbocker, which not only advises Christine Quinn but the Michelle Rhee/Joel Klein Student First anti-union operation here in NY State to supposedly counter the union influence ---"

Also "Rosen's firm, SKDKnickerbocker, represents Kaplan, and was instrumental in weakening efforts to rein in student loan abuses by for-profit 'universities.'"

 

I owe a

(50 posts)
14. the point being...
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:53 AM
May 2012

you wrote the first part and then stated down thread that you knew this since she came out, sorry, my original intent was to ask why you were using a right leaning website, but now we are here

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
16. I knew she was gay when she came out. I did not know who her partner was, let alone that her
Tue May 22, 2012, 05:00 AM
May 2012

partner worked for education deformers. It's not that hard to understand the distinction, I think.

The website I linked is left-leaning, not right leaning.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. and now that i see you've edited your original post, i'm not a bit interested in "the gay thing," if
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:58 AM
May 2012

by that you mean the fact that weingarten is gay. weingarten's partner's political activities for the education deform team were the focus of my post.

if weingarten were straight with ex-boyfriend who worked for ed deformers, i would have made the same post. you can replace "hilary rosen" with "hank rosen" and the tone remains the same.

sorry, you can't parry criticism of a gay political figure by pretending that discussion of the political activities of their partners is gay-bashing.

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #15)

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
19. Yes...
Tue May 22, 2012, 12:00 PM
May 2012

"Hilary Beth Rosen (born 1958) is an American lobbyist and Democratic pundit. She worked for the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for 16 years where she was CEO from 1998 to 2003. In June 2010, during Deepwater Horizon oil spill, Rosen worked to help British Petroleum (BP). She works for the public relations firm SKDKnickerbocker."

(From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilary_Rosen )

Mass

(27,315 posts)
20. So, you're responsible of the acts/thoughts of your spouse and
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

agree with him/her 100%.

Your world must be sad.

Even worse. you hold her responsible for what the firm her partner works for does, without any indication that any of them agrees with. You may be right, you may be wrong. Right now, this is guilt by association.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
21. Interesting how you felt you needed to turn your critique into a personal attack. As for me, yes,
Tue May 22, 2012, 03:16 PM
May 2012

I think it's important that union members should know the kind of company their leaders keep -- especially when that company is working against unionization, public education, and for the privatization of public resources.

And I'll add, if Weingarten was actually representing her membership, it would be easier to give her a pass on her love life. But as she has been selling them out, no pass on anything.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
22. No personal attack. Just a comment on the content of your post.
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:35 PM
May 2012

Though it tells a lot that you consider that as a personal attack.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
23. "Your world must be sad" = personal attack. A personal attack = disparaging the poster or
Tue May 22, 2012, 04:44 PM
May 2012

attributing the poster's views to some personal deficit.

"Though it tells a lot that you consider that as a personal attack" = second personal attack.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
25. That link doesn't say anything about Rosen working for Klein-Rhee and her other anti-union
Tue May 22, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012

activities.

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