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Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:52 AM

 

Arne Duncan: ‘White suburban moms’ upset that Common Core shows their kids aren’t ‘brilliant’

Time to impeach this dolt and run him out of town:

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”

Yes, he really said that. But he has said similar things before. What, exactly, is he talking about?

In his cheerleading for the controversial Common Core State Standards — which were approved by 45 states and the District of Columbia and are now being implemented across the country — Duncan has repeatedly noted that the standards and the standardized testing that goes along with them are supposedly more difficult than students in most states have confronted.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/11/16/arne-duncan-white-surburban-moms-upset-that-common-core-shows-their-kids-arent-brilliant/


Worst cabinet member in the history of the United States.

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duffyduff Nov 2013 OP
enlightenment Nov 2013 #1
duffyduff Nov 2013 #2
DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #3
Deep13 Nov 2013 #4
defacto7 Nov 2013 #5
Igel Nov 2013 #7
Deep13 Nov 2013 #8
proud2BlibKansan Nov 2013 #6
Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #10
AllyCat Nov 2013 #9

Response to duffyduff (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:58 AM

1. Unimpeachable. unfortunately.

The President could fire him - but somehow I don't see that happening.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:06 AM

2. Theoretically he CAN be impeached. He's broken the law

 

by usurping state and local governments' rights to dictate curriculum. The feds aren't supposed to do that at all.

That according to Diane Ravitch.

That's only one of his many violations.

Cabinet members as well as federal judges CAN be impeached and removed.

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Response to duffyduff (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:13 AM

3. It would be sad if

After allowing Charter schools to take money from the inner city, hurting what chance minorities had to get an education, what cause shis fall was that he finally offended suburbia. It is like having to send Al capone to jail for Tax Evasion, a welcome result, but not even close to justice.

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Response to duffyduff (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:23 AM

4. They're not brilliant because of people like Arne Duncan.

We're not teaching them. We are merely training them to take tests.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:41 AM

5. We're not teaching them. We are merely training them to take tests.

Great point! It's the fact and it's been going on for years.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:45 PM

7. Which explains why they do so poorly on them, I guess.

The problem is that many of the new tests are written in a way that make them unteachable-to without teaching what the tests are supposed to test.

My favorite science question just had a simple question. But to answer it you had to know
how to read a piece of equipment
the equation involved for the "law" involved
what each of the symbols meant in real terms
how to find proportions
how to reason about that "law" in terms of proportions

And even then the answer choices were pictures. You had to pick the coil (in this case) that contained the right values to answer the question. In other words, that calculator was useless.

If you looked at the required standards you'd have found each of those things listed. The old test would have probably just given numbers and asked kids to plug-and-chug to find the answer. Or asked, "Faraday's law involves ..." with a series of choices. You can get to the answer given the equation that was provided--use the test to pass the test. Or you can say, "Heck, I can't solve for x. I'll just plug each of the answers in the equation until I get a number I recognize" and let the calculator do the thinking for you.

The first year this kind of test was given the passing score for at least one subject was 38%. 13 points above random chance. Over 40% of the kids failed--they didn't know 13% more than random guessing would have gotten them. The next year the passing score was higher, but teachers had a clue and started teaching better. Still, the fail rate didn't fall.

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Response to Igel (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 09:51 PM

8. A bit confused here.

You say in your first sentence that the tests actually test what students are learning, but you describe it as a problem. Isn't that what we want.

Even so, the most useful test format is essay. There is no purely objective test that allows an instructor to see just how well the students understand the material. I've been in grad school for over 2 years now (history, Arabic language) and except for short-answer language tests, every assignment calls for a type-written essay of at least four pages. When teaching undergrads, the requirement is for shorter in-class handwritten essays or short (maybe three pages) typed for at home projects. The problem we have with the undergrads is that, while they may know the material (or not) they cannot seem to express themselves in writing.

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Response to duffyduff (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 02:18 PM

6. Oh, great! Now Arne is insulting white, suburban moms?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 04:58 PM

10. He is one dumb cookie..pathetic. n/t

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Response to duffyduff (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:51 PM

9. @thechalkface has some interesting blogs about this today.

What a horrible Ed Sec he is. Ugh.

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