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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,459 posts)
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 01:33 PM Feb 2018

Eric Lundgren, "e-waste" recycling innovator, faces prison for trying to extend life span of PCs

Eric Lundgren, "e-waste" recycling innovator, faces prison for trying to extend life span of PCs



True Crime

Eric Lundgren, ‘e-waste’ recycling innovator, faces prison for trying to extend life span of PCs

By Tom Jackman February 15 at 5:00 AM

Eric Lundgren is obsessed with recycling electronics. ... He built an electric car out of recycled parts that far outdistanced a Tesla in a test. He launched what he thinks is the first “electronic hybrid recycling” facility in the United States, which turns discarded cellphones and other electronics into functional devices, slowing the stream of harmful chemicals and metals into landfills and the environment. His California-based company processes more than 41 million pounds of e-waste each year and counts IBM, Motorola and Sprint among its clients. ... But an idea Lundgren had to prolong the life of personal computers could land him in prison.

Prosecutors said the 33-year-old ripped off Microsoft by manufacturing 28,000 counterfeit discs with the company’s Windows operating system on them. He was convicted of conspiracy and copyright infringement, which brought a 15-month prison sentence and a $50,000 fine.

In a rare move though, a federal appeals court has granted an emergency stay of the sentence, giving Lundgren another chance to make his argument that the whole thing was a misunderstanding. Lundgren does not deny that he made the discs, or hoped to sell them. But he says this was no profit-making scheme. By his account, he just wanted to make it easier to extend the usefulness of secondhand computers — keeping more of them out of the trash.

The case centers on “restore discs,” which can be used only on computers that already have the licensed Windows software and can be downloaded free from the computer’s manufacturer, in this case Dell. The discs are routinely provided to buyers of new computers to allow them to reinstall their operating systems if the computers’ hardware fails or must be wiped clean. But they often are lost by the time used computers find their way to a refurbisher.
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Eric Lundgren atop a pile of 48,000 “restore CDs” he purchased recently for less than five cents apiece. He faces prison for seeking to distribute similar CDs to computer refurbishers. (Eric Lundgren)
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Tom Jackman has been covering criminal justice for The Washington Post since 1998 and anchors the True Crime blog. He previously covered crime and courts for the Kansas City Star. Follow @TomJackmanWP
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Eric Lundgren, "e-waste" recycling innovator, faces prison for trying to extend life span of PCs (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 OP
Unbelievable. I help run a thrift store, it would be nice to have something like this. ck4829 Feb 2018 #1
One word: "LINUX". nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #2
I don't run LINUX. Is there pretty much a driver for everything now in LINUX? mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #3
Yes. Moreso than Windows sometimes. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #4
Thanks. I have some old computers I want to get running for a variety of purposes. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #5
For help, go to the DU group "Open Source and Free Software". nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #6
I didn't know there was one. When I get around to it...... NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #7
Microsoft has (or had) a program for non-profit computer refurbising. hunter Feb 2018 #8
I leave old computers out at the end of the sidewalk with a "free - gratis" sign on them, mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2018 #9

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
1. Unbelievable. I help run a thrift store, it would be nice to have something like this.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 01:37 PM
Feb 2018

We get computers in all the time, but people often leave them locked when they bring them to us, and if we don't know what's on them then we don't want to sell them and we can't put password-locked computers out on the floor anyway. So we have to trash them.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,459 posts)
3. I don't run LINUX. Is there pretty much a driver for everything now in LINUX?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

I mean, for John Q. Public, is it a plug and play operation?

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
4. Yes. Moreso than Windows sometimes.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

I had an old laptop that I tried to re-install windows on and none of the network drivers would work, and the video drivers would not set to the proper resolution for the screen. No matter what I did, I couldn't connect to the Internet with it, and I couldn't get the screen to look right. And this was the original restore disk that came with the laptop.

So I took out an old LINUX MINT install disk and put LINUX on it, and it connected to the Internet instantly, without and fuss or fiddling. And the screen resolution was perfect.

And there are freeware versions of Open Office and just about every other piece of software you could imagine. Even their Photoshop replacement is free, and some say, better than Photoshop.

Granted, several years ago LINUX was a pain in the butt to use, but these days, the average person would have a hard time telling the difference between Windows and LINUX, except that LINUX runs better.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,459 posts)
5. Thanks. I have some old computers I want to get running for a variety of purposes.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 02:15 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Thu Feb 15, 2018, 04:30 PM - Edit history (1)

I did a Ubuntu installation some years ago. For some reason I can't recall anymore, I ended up not using it.

I gather the browser support for it is everything I could ask for now.

hunter

(38,313 posts)
8. Microsoft has (or had) a program for non-profit computer refurbising.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 04:17 PM
Feb 2018

I worked for a non-profit that did this. We had CD's that would do all the setup unattended. The licensing for everything on the CDs was solid. But this was back in the XP days.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/refurbishedpcs

Personally, I only build Linux machines anymore. Windows is a pain in the ass to install. The current Home Edition is about fifteen gigabytes, two thirds of it crap. It's too big considering most people only use the web browser anyways. Chromium is the same on Windows or Linux machines, and LbreOffice is as good as Microsoft Office for most users.

But now I'm starting to think most refurbished machines are energy hogs compared to inexpensive Chromebooks, so maybe it's best to throw obsolete "high performance" machines into the e-waste bins so long as fossil fuels are being burned to power them. I used to repair CRT monitors too.

Our local high schools give Chromebooks to students. The price of textbooks today is comparable to Chromebooks. Most of our teachers love these machines and some have gone entirely paperless. (I think we could carry this further and do away with commercial textbooks entirely by paying certain educators to maintain free Open Source textbooks. Unfortunately the giants of the commercial education industry have their hooks set deep in our politicians, almost as bad as the defense industry.)

Our libraries have free wifi as well as computer terminals. People who don't have internet connections at home can go there. Without universal internet access refurbished computers are not as useful to lower income people as they might be.







mahatmakanejeeves

(57,459 posts)
9. I leave old computers out at the end of the sidewalk with a "free - gratis" sign on them,
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 04:31 PM
Feb 2018

after wiping anything personal from the hard drives. They disappear fast enough.

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