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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:09 PM Jul 2018

Next-Gen Nuclear Is Coming, If We Want It.

Back in 2009, Simon Irish, an investment manager in New York, found the kind of opportunity that he thought could transform the world while — in the process — transforming dollars into riches.

Irish saw that countries around the globe needed to build a boggling amount of clean-power projects to replace its fossil fuel infrastructure — while also providing enough energy for rising demand from China, India, and other rapidly growing countries. He realized that it would be very hard for renewables, which depend on the wind blowing and the sun shining, to do everything. And he knew that nuclear power, the only existing form of clean energy that could fill the gaps, was too expensive to compete with oil and gas.

But then, at a conference in 2011, he met an engineer with an innovative design for a nuclear reactor cooled by molten salt. If it worked, Irish figured, it could not only solve the problems with aging nuclear power, but also provide a realistic path to dropping fossil fuels.

“The question was, ‘Can we do better than the conventional reactors that were commercialized 60 years ago?” Irish recalled. “And the answer was, ‘Absolutely.’”


https://grist.org/article/next-gen-nuclear-is-coming-if-we-want-it/

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3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
4. Not to worry. It will be solved when it becomes a problem. Why I remember reading about
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:55 PM
Jul 2018

how peeps thought the world would be covered in horse manure when horses were the main means of transportation.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
5. How many people, exactly, died from what you call "nuclear waste?" Anything like the 70 million...
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jul 2018

...people who died from air pollution, dangerous fossil fuel and dangerous biomass combustion waste in the last ten years?

A comparative risk assessment of burden of disease and injury attributable to 67 risk factors and risk factor clusters in 21 regions, 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010 (Lancet 2012, 380, 2224–60: For air pollution mortality figures see Table 3, page 2238 and the text on page 2240.)

This rote response of only giving a shit about the fate of used nuclear fuel, which has a record over half a century of not killing one, is not merely crazy, it's obscene.

Nuclear energy need not address the dark fantasies of every poorly educated person dragging out their selective attention to be superior to all other options. It merely needs to save lives by being superior to everything else, something it does quite well.

Used nuclear fuel is being stored on the site where it has been used until we overcome ignorance and recognize it for the valuable material it is. It has proved, thus far, harmless, fantasies to the contrary notwithstanding.

Where, by the way, are you storing the dangerous fossil fuel waste you generate, if I may ask? Your living room? Your backyard? Your neighbor's house. I would like to submit that you're storing it in my lungs, and in the lungs of every breathing animal on this planet.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
6. Please .... I'll put my poor education up against yours any day.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jul 2018

As for getting a next generation of nuclear reactors that is like getting the
new and improved buggy whips.


60 miles to the south of me is the old grounds of the Piketon, OH Uranium enrichment
plant and in some of the areas around the plant people who lived there had a much
higher rate of certain types of cancers.

BTW how is that harmless fantasy call Fukushima working out?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
7. Optimistically, reactors could be built that utilize existing nuclear "waste"...
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 08:33 PM
Jul 2018

... including used fuel from existing light water reactors, depleted uranium, nuclear weapons, and existing mine tailings.

There are huge stockpiles of depleted uranium worldwide. Currently this depleted uranium is most commonly used to shoot "enemies" and poison their children and grandchildren.

The leftover fission products of fast reactors have much shorter half-lives than those of existing light water reactors; radioactivity approaches that of the original "natural" uranium ores in a few hundred years.

In any case, used nuclear fuels properly contained are not nearly so scary as toxic coal or gas fracking wastes having half lives of forever, that are dumped wherever, and with the blessing of the Trump administration, even ignoring greenhouse gas emissions.

A toxic coal ash accident:






A roughly equivalent (at least within an order of magnitude or two) amount of "spent" nuclear fuel minding its own business, going nowhere, doing nothing.



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