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Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:01 AM Nov 2018

Climate contrarian uncovers scientific error, upends major ocean warming study

Researchers with UC San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography and Princeton University recently walked back scientific findings published last month that showed oceans have been heating up dramatically faster than previously thought as a result of climate change.

In a paper published Oct. 31 in the journal Nature, researchers found that ocean temperatures had warmed 60 percent more than outlined by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

However, the conclusion came under scrutiny after mathematician Nic Lewis, a critic of the scientific consensus around human-induced warming, posted a critique of the paper on the blog of Judith Curry, another well-known critic.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-climate-study-error-20181113-story.html

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Climate contrarian uncovers scientific error, upends major ocean warming study (Original Post) OnlinePoker Nov 2018 OP
But we're still going to die, right? dubyadiprecession Nov 2018 #1
"In the long run, we're all dead." -- John Maynard Keynes. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #2
We're still up shitcreek. nt Duppers Nov 2018 #3
So, it was a first attempt to utilize a newly devised method of calculating ocean temps mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #4
thank you for that clear explanation. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2018 #5
no problem ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #6
 

mr_lebowski

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4. So, it was a first attempt to utilize a newly devised method of calculating ocean temps
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:42 PM
Nov 2018

In this case, rather than using direct measurements of physical temp, the original study's author's methodology involves collecting gas (O2 and CO2 it sounds like, at least primarily) emanating from the surface to estimate H2O temp.

This critic apparently found a flaw in the methodology and the original authors have essentially had to walk back their assessment due to the error margin being much larger than they originally posited.

Allow me to point out that this is EXACTLY the way that 'science' and the process of 'peer-review' ... is meant to work. There's no accusation made that the original authors sought to deceive anyone, they simply made a miscalculation, which has since (and quickly) been corrected after input from peers.

The fact is, there still remains 1000's and 1000's of other peer-reviewed studies showing AGC is occurring ... that have NOT been refuted, nor shown to have calculation errors.

This particular study was simply trying a novel approach to studying one very specific aspect of AGC, that being the degree of ocean warming ... and a mistake in this one study overall is quite meaningless AFA the overall consensus is concerned. It's not like all the models in existence are depending on this brand-new temp measuring methodology being accurate.

In fact, it's likely precisely ZERO of them do.

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