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Sun May 17, 2020, 06:55 PM

The end of plastic? New plant-based bottles will degrade in a year

theguardian.com

Beer and soft drinks could soon be sipped from ďall-plantĒ bottles under new plans to turn sustainably grown crops into plastic in partnership with major beverage makers.

A biochemicals company in the Netherlands hopes to kickstart investment in a pioneering project that hopes to make plastics from plant sugars rather than fossil fuels.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/16/the-end-of-plastic-new-plant-based-bottles-will-degrade-in-a-year

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Reply The end of plastic? New plant-based bottles will degrade in a year (Original post)
lordsummerisle May 17 OP
TheFarseer May 17 #1
Baked Potato May 17 #2
virgogal May 17 #3
I_UndergroundPanther May 17 #4
Canoe52 May 18 #5
NickB79 May 18 #6
lordsummerisle May 19 #7
NickB79 May 19 #8
lordsummerisle May 20 #9
NickB79 May 20 #10
lordsummerisle May 20 #11

Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 07:06 PM

1. Thank God

That sounds like just what we need. Iíve been reading that recycling plastic is basically a joke foisted on us by the plastic industry so that we wonít demand anti plastic legislation.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 07:22 PM

2. Hope it works.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 07:59 PM

3. I detest plastic.Even

when making lunches for my kids years ago I used wax paper and paper bags.I like my peanut butter in glass jars etc.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2020, 08:26 PM

4. Plant sugars

I hope diabetics can use them. I hope so.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 09:14 AM

5. Let's hope this will be our new plastic! Tired of having to buy everything in plastic.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 06:20 PM

6. We've already cleared most of the world's prairies for cropland

Forests are falling rapidly as well.

Where shall we get enough fertile land, not currently used for food, fiber, lumber, or wildlife habitat, to grow the hundreds of billions of tons of raw material annually?

Short of everyone going vegetarian to free up existing cropland, that is.

Oh, and not in competition for land we want to plant trees on for carbon sequestration.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #6)

Tue May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

7. Here's the company who came up with this:

https://www.avantium.com/

if you want to tell them they're wasting their time...

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #7)

Tue May 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

8. All "biomass will save us" proposals are wasting our time

Without either a massive switch to a plant based diet, or a substantial drop in world population, we simple don't have any extra arable land left. If anything, we need to start restoring farmland to forests and grasslands while we still can, before the soil is too degraded and water resources too depleted.

Biomass as a replacement for oil is a pipe dream.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #8)

Wed May 20, 2020, 07:54 AM

9. You should enlighten them n/t

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #9)

Wed May 20, 2020, 09:38 AM

10. Why? No one is listening

The Ogallalla Aquifer will fail in the next 30 yr from overpumping and vast parts of the central US breadbasket will be forced back to shortgrass prairie on their own. That's around the same time we're expected to hit 9 billion mouths to feed and serious climate destruction setting in.

Not gonna be much land left for sufficient crops, much less biomass plastic or biofuels.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #10)

Wed May 20, 2020, 10:18 AM

11. Someone must be listening n/t

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