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NNadir

(33,525 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:15 PM Jan 2023

Chinese modular high temperature nuclear reactors reach full power and 42% thermal efficiency.

After many years of thinking big reactors were the best path forward, I changed my mind and became an aficionado of small modular reactors, running at high temperatures with heat exchange networks.

These Chinese reactors are not exactly what I had in mind, although they do feature something I like very much, nuclear islands working in tandem to drive non-nuclear devices.

Currently, most nuclear reactors (with some exceptions) run on the steam (Rankine) cycle, at fairly low thermal efficiency, around 33%. This means that quite of bit of energy is wasted as heat rejected to the environment, this at an environmental cost. It would be better to extract more exergy (work) from the system and thus reject less heat.

The Chinese are on the path to do this; they're reviving some very creative ideas from the past.

Here's the article describing the achievement:

China's demonstration HTR-PM reaches full power

Excerpts:

The demonstration High Temperature Gas-Cooled Reactor-Pebble-bed Module (HTR-PM) at the Shidaowan site in Shandong province of China has reached its initial full power with "stable operation under the mode of 'two reactors with one machine'".

The plant features two small reactors that drive a single 210 MWe turbine. It is owned by a consortium led by China Huaneng (47.5%), with China National Nuclear Corporation subsidiary China Nuclear Engineering Corporation (32.5%) and Tsinghua University's Institute of Nuclear and New Energy Technology (20%), which is the research and development leader.

They reported that it had reached "initial full power" on 9 December and "this operating state has verified that all systems of the demonstration project meet the design functions, laying the foundation for the project to be put into operation".

The Huaneng Shidaowan High Temperature Gas-Cooled Reactor Demonstration Project is the world's first pebble bed modular high-temperature gas-cooled reactor, and having achieved the initial full-power operation of the dual reactors and "tested the operation control capability" of it in "two reactors with one machine" mode, the operators describe it as "laying the foundation for future commercial operation".

The first reactor reached first criticality in September 2021 and the second one that November. The connection of the first of the unit's twin reactors took place in December 2021.

The HTR-PM features two small reactors (each of 250 MWt) that drive a single 210 MWe steam turbine. It uses helium as coolant and graphite moderator. Each reactor is loaded with more than 245,000 spherical fuel elements (‘pebbles’), each 60 mm in diameter and containing 7 g of fuel enriched to 8.5%. Each pebble has an outer layer of graphite and contains some 12,000 four-layer ceramic-coated fuel particles dispersed in a matrix of graphite powder. The fuel has high inherent safety characteristics, and has been shown to remain intact and to continue to contain radioactivity at temperatures up to 1620°C - far higher than the temperatures that would be encountered even in extreme accident situations, according to the China Nuclear Energy Association...


There are a number of features I don't like, including helium coolant, since the world supply of helium is at severe risk. I fully expect this element to become an exotic by product of the reprocessing of nuclear fuel where it will be formed by the alpha decay of short lived nuclei like Cm-242, Pu-238, and Cm-244.

Still the concept of "nuclear islands" distinct from non-nuclear conversion systems, in this case a turbine, is a good idea, allowing for swaps of nuclear components, and the ability to change reactor missions.

This system is operating at 42% thermal efficiency, better than Rankine systems, but we can and should go much, much, much further.

Have a nice evening.
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Chinese modular high temperature nuclear reactors reach full power and 42% thermal efficiency. (Original Post) NNadir Jan 2023 OP
As usual, you've provided interesting information that led me to look deeper into a new subject. EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #1
Yes this is the basic idea. By the way, my son recently toured a US TRISO fuel manufacturing... NNadir Jan 2023 #2
Again, interesting stuff. Thanks. EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #3
Air as reactor working fluid John ONeill Jan 2023 #4
These are excellent questions John, and would apply to Triso fuel using air as a working fluid. NNadir Jan 2023 #5

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
1. As usual, you've provided interesting information that led me to look deeper into a new subject.
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:39 PM
Jan 2023

The use of Helium struck me too as there has been quite a bit of commentary about impending shortages. I read about a German AVR reactor from the sixties, is this the "creative ideas from the past" that you mention?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble-bed_reactor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVR_reactor

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
2. Yes this is the basic idea. By the way, my son recently toured a US TRISO fuel manufacturing...
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:53 PM
Jan 2023

...facility.

This fuel is planned for use in the Kairos molten salt/pebble bed type reactor. This I think, will be a better design than helium coolants and allow for more flexibility.

My favorite working fluid in gas cooled reactors would be air, since it would have the benefit of working like an environmental kidney or liver, destroying a number of problematic dilute gases (including but not limited to methane), particularly if the air is heated in the presence of gamma radiation.

The Chinese innovation here is the modularity.

The German Pebble bed was a little bit ahead of its time. Specifically, materials science was not really as advanced as it is now.

I am not, for the record, a TRISO kind of guy, but the worst nuclear reactor is better than the best dangerous fossil fuel plant, including those that the wind and solar industry require for back up. Graphite is intrinsically a moderator and I'm a fast neutron spectrum kind of guy.

This said, the Kairos innovation, an American innovation out of UC Berkeley is a very interesting concept at its base.

John ONeill

(60 posts)
4. Air as reactor working fluid
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:14 AM
Jan 2023

Really like the Kairos concept - it should avoid the radioactive dust problem that the German HTTR had, due to the lubrication and buoyancy from the salt. Per Petersen says the stresses on the fuel pebbles are so low, it's like them relaxing in one of those sensory deprivation tanks that rich people allegedly pay to spend time in.
Wouldn't running air through a reactor core make nitrous oxide, from the heat, and carbon 14, from neutron reactions on the nitrogen? Otherwise, I'd thought autonomous nuclear drones, with minimal shielding, could stay aloft for a year or so, and tow passenger planes a safe distance behind them. That would cut out most of the greenhouse gases from aviation. Hooking on and unhooking would be automated, too. The aircraft would only need to carry enough fuel to get to cruising altitude, get back down, make a backup landing field in case of a mishap, and run the auxilliary power unit for house loads.
Considering the fallibility of pilots shown by 9-11, the German who took his passengers into the Alps, and probably the Malaysian Air jet that disappeared somewhere in the Indian Ocean, that might be a safer as well as cleaner option, though I'd probably have trouble convincing most people.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
5. These are excellent questions John, and would apply to Triso fuel using air as a working fluid.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 03:02 AM
Jan 2023

The other issue would be oxidation of the TRISO itself.

It's not at all what I have in mind however. The system I envision would not be exposed to a neutron flux, but rather to gamma radiation as part of a heat exchange network. It's a very different system. It would take a very long time to describe the details; I've been working to get these ideas into my son.

(Again, I'm not a TRISO kind of guy.)

I would never dream of creating carbon-14 in air, although I have no problem with it in fuel. In many ways, carbon-14 is a potentially useful material, particularly when the world runs out of helium, which it will. Carbon-14 does not have a neutron capture cross section of zero like helium, but to my knowledge, it has the lowest capture cross section of any other nuclide except helium; close to deuterium, but, if memory serves me well, slightly lower than deuterium across most of the neutron spectrum. It thus has a remarkable potential for high neutron efficiency, a key issue if humanity chooses to scale nuclear energy rapidly, as it must do to have any chance to function at a decent level in a sustainable world.

The other issue you raise, nitrogen oxides - albeit not nitrous oxide directly - are of course issues with other devices using compressed air, including jet engines. At high temperatures nitrous is an oxidant; it will support combustion. What is formed in hot compressed air, for example in a diesel or Otto engine, is nitric oxide (NO) and (mechanistically via oxidation of NO) nitrogen dioxide, NO2. These are thermodynamically unstable compounds actually, and can be (and are in automotive catalysts) destroyed by catalysis with palladium, rhodium, and ruthenium, all of which are components of used nuclear fuels. (Palladium will be slightly radioactive, unless it is obtained from the decay of ruthenium 106.)

The brilliance of Per Peterson's design, although, again, it's not the kind of reactor I would choose to build in a fantasy world where my opinion was sought, is to remove the issue of gas flow. It's a FLIBE system as I understand it. I don't like FLIBE for a number of reasons, but even if it's not ideal (to my mind), it is still excellent compared to say, burning dangerous fossil fuels. I like the KAIROS reactor overall, mostly because it will be built. However, I consider it a local maximum, not a global maximum. I'm a fast neutron spectrum kind of guy.

Thank you for your excellent remarks.

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