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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 05:57 PM Jul 2013

Kids volunteering for Greenpeace are blamed by some here for shutting down San Onofre Nuclear PP

1) Are those kids that powerful, are they really responsible for the now permanent closure of San Onofre? (the initial closure was actually by regulators...)

2) If a handful of "medding kids", some supported by their parents can change environmental and energy policies simply by being activists, would that make the world a better place in general or not?

A whole David vs. Goliath story is being told by a few vocal supporters of the large scale nuclear expansion at any cost or sacrifice (as opposed to those who support nuclear expansion in more modest ways).

The question is, is San Onofre and the nuclear industry the victim of "trust fund brats"? Who is David and who is Goliath? By some tellings, some would have you believe that it is the nuclear industry and nuclear power that are the underdogs, somehow outgunned and outspent by...kids volunteering for Greenpeace and grandma's showing up at meetings arguing against nuclear power?

Really?



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Kids volunteering for Greenpeace are blamed by some here for shutting down San Onofre Nuclear PP (Original Post) CreekDog Jul 2013 OP
blamed? i prefer credited.. frylock Jul 2013 #1
According to Jim Hansen, one of the world's leading climate researchers publishing in... NNadir Jul 2013 #4
fukushima daiichi functioned perfectly fine for 40 years.. frylock Jul 2013 #5
Is this closure Permanent, semi-Permanent or just for a truedelphi Jul 2013 #2
The reactors are permanently shut down. bananas Jul 2013 #3

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
4. According to Jim Hansen, one of the world's leading climate researchers publishing in...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jul 2013

...Environmental Science and Technology, nuclear energy saves lives.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3051197

His calculation shows that the number of lives saved is 1.8 million.

It's pretty funny that Greenpeace twits driving to demonstrations in gasoline powered and diesel powered cars do so in one of the state with some of the worst air pollution in the country.

The World Health Organization reports that 3.3 million people die each year from air pollution, two million of them the responsibility of bourgeois twits who used to go around with stupid bumper stickers on their stupid cars reading "split wood" not atoms, since renewable biomass burning kills 2 million people per year, half under the age of 5.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs313/en/index.html

Anyone who claims that air pollution doesn't kill people in Southern California has never set foot there.

By contrast, the SONGS plant killed no one in its decades of operation; on the contrary it saved lives.

I lived in Southern California for about two decades, and one of the comforts was that beautiful plant, now to be needlessly destroyed.

Of course, none of this is surprising in the State with one of the worst public education programs in the country.

The obvious corollary to all of this is that anti-nukism is a major health crisis on this planet, wherein, as is often the case, fear and ignorance costs lives, tens of millions of lives each decade according to the WHO.

"Blame" is the exactly correct word. Greenpeace is an organization that has never had a single member who was not childish, nor has it had a single member possessing anything like a decent education.

People who otherwise might have lived will surely die for the idiotic decision to shut that plant.

Ignorance kills.

Enjoy the rest of the week.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
5. fukushima daiichi functioned perfectly fine for 40 years..
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:28 AM
Jul 2013

perhaps that should be commissioned again.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
2. Is this closure Permanent, semi-Permanent or just for a
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jul 2013

Year or two? In any case, I am grateful to whomever it was that the plant got shut down. Finally!

bananas

(27,509 posts)
3. The reactors are permanently shut down.
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jul 2013

The last of the fuel has been removed from the reactors.
The spent fuel will remain on site for a long time.

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