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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:55 PM Mar 2016

World temperature could rise rapidly by 2020, modelling suggests

https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2016/03/world-temperature-could-rise-rapidly-2020-modelling-suggests
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10 March 2016

[font size=3]CO₂ emissions and thus global warming could rise more quickly than expected, according to a new model by University of Queensland and [link:file:///C:/Users/uqcfung/Desktop/griffith.edu.au|Griffith University] researchers.



It forecasts that population and economic growth combined with rising energy use per person could significantly increase global energy demand and CO₂ emissions, causing world average temperature to rise by 1.5 degrees as early as 2020.



“Nations at the 2015 UN Conference on Climate Change agreed to keep the rise in global average temperature below 2 degrees Celsius, preferably limiting it to 1.5 degrees to protect island states,” Professor Hankamer said.

“Our model shows we may have less time left than expected to prevent world temperature from rising above these thresholds.

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World temperature could rise rapidly by 2020, modelling suggests (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Mar 2016 OP
Someone actually writing an honest article. You'd think the world was coming to an end. Gregorian Mar 2016 #1
We have to voluntarily get smaller Hydra Mar 2016 #2
February globally was 1.35 deg C above the 1950-1980 baseline. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #3
Unfortunately, the world problem is much bigger than just CO2. GliderGuider Mar 2016 #4
I got a bad feeling about this pscot Mar 2016 #5
Yeah… I think the Press Release is a little misleading OKIsItJustMe Mar 2016 #6
we're trying to square the circle pscot Mar 2016 #7
As my mechanic said last time I brought my car in for brake issues NickB79 Mar 2016 #8

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
1. Someone actually writing an honest article. You'd think the world was coming to an end.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

I've got to give the guy props. And he's echoing my sentiment of "personal responsibility" combined with a few other things. And not afraid of two big words. Great. I have faith in humanity again.

This is the one that really speaks for me. It goes unheard every time- “We have successfully applied our model to world energy demand from 1950-2010 and demonstrated that increases in energy efficiency alone don’t offset the surge in in energy use per person,” he said.

Some big unanswered questions that I also find impressive. Dilemmas. Like, you don't both rebuild the nation's infrastructures AND cut down on fossil fuel emissions. So it raises questions.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. We have to voluntarily get smaller
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

Cut our growth rates and populations significantly and go carbon/waste neutral on newer technologies.

That's anathema for Capitalism, which is why I think we're screwed unless we have a massive change of heart on our place in the world.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. Unfortunately, the world problem is much bigger than just CO2.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:35 AM
Mar 2016

As bad as global warming is, cutting the CO2 but not our overall energy consumption still leaves us with a world that is being deforested, strip-mined and denuded of other plant and animal species. It's not the CO2 that produces those effects, it's the energy production. Cleaning up the CO2 but leaving our energy use intact just leaves us with a carbon-neutral Business As Usual.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
7. we're trying to square the circle
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

We're already bumping up against 1.5 C. The IPCC projections seem to be based on hope rather than what's actually happening. It is unusual to see population increase explicitly linked to energy demand and, by extension, CO2 release.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
8. As my mechanic said last time I brought my car in for brake issues
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:50 PM
Mar 2016

And I said I hoped it wasn't anything major:

"Hope in one hand, shit in the other, and see which fills up first."

It's shit. We're getting the shit.

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