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Sun Oct 15, 2017, 08:08 PM

The Russia And China Problem

Kaschich was on TV talking about the problem of the authoritarian Russian and Chinese governments.

The problem with them is that they are both run by authoritarian regimes. The Russian people and the Chinese people themselves are not the problem; their anti-democratic governments are the problem. The Russian people and the Chinese people are oppressed by their own governments. Many of those people want freedom and democracy, but instead have dictatorship. They should not be our enemies; their governments are our enemies.

Just as we rebuilt Germany and Japan after WW II and made them allies and prosperous democracies, so we should have done with Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Instead, we left them to their own devices, and now they are run by an Authoritarian ex-KGB Officer and the super-rich Oligarchy. They have no democracy, and now Russia is an ongoing threat to freedom and global security.

The Russian people are terribly oppressed. I knew many Russians at my University, and they were all good people who just wanted freedom and life, like anyone else. Instead they have a dictatorship. If Russia and China were democracies, we would not be having these problems. Now Putin wants to weaken America by installing a dangerous and ignorant clown/demagogue, Trump. We need this anti-democratic tyrant out of power ASAP.

So, the Russian and Chinese people are not the problem. Their authoritarian governments are the problem. We need democracy in both these nations. We need to back anti-Putin forces. Trump is a Putin stooge and a threat to democracy everywhere, here and abroad. We need our democracy back. We need freedom and democracy for the Russian and Chinese people, and this will help protect our own freedom. Global Democracy Now! Say no to Tyrants like Trump and Putin!

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Response to Progressive2020 (Original post)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 08:28 PM

2. Many of my college students are from China, and I have many Chinese friends (some of whom

we're students of mine at one time). They are good people.

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Sun Oct 15, 2017, 08:45 PM

3. Why not work on our own country and let Chinese and Russians decide what they need in China

and Russia and when. Americans don't need to back anti rebellion forces in either place IMO or take part in installing a new leader
Your OP states if Russia and China were democracies we would not be having some of our problems here and we need "freedom " for Russia and China
Our freedom here shouldn't depend on a perceived need to have a democracy just like ours elsewhere

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Response to lunasun (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 09:44 PM

4. I Respectfully Disagree

I think that the only legitimate form of government is a Democracy where all people are heard and minority factions are protected from any Tyranny of the Majority. My point is that the Russian and Chinese people DO NOT have a say in how their Countries are run, and this is a major problem, for them and for the entire World.

Just worrying about America and leaving other Countries to the whims of Authoritarian Powers is isolationism and anti-democracy. In my opinion we can not afford that. It is a violation of the rights of the People when there is no Democracy, and that is a problem not just for the Russian and Chinese People, but also for the security of the entire World, including America.

We need Global Democracy for global peace. Every Nation deserves their own Democracy, and the entire world suffers a threat when there is no Democracy, and therefore no legitimate Government that protects and respects the rights of the People.

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