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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 09:28 PM Feb 2022

Russia says it may be 'forced' to respond militarily if the US won't agree to its unacceptable secur

security demands on Ukraine

Russia on Thursday warned it could be "forced to respond" militarily if the US doesn't agree to its demands for binding security guarantees, including permanently barring Ukraine and Georgia from NATO. The US has repeatedly made it clear that this demand is a non-starter.

"In the absence of the readiness of the American side to agree on firm, legally binding guarantees of ensuring our security by the United States and its allies, Russia will be forced to respond, including through the implementation of military-technical measures," the Kremlin said on Thursday in an 11-page response to written proposals submitted by the US in late January on Moscow's security demands.

The US and NATO have firmly rejected Russia's demand that Ukraine be forever banned from the alliance, stating that countries should be free to choose their own allies and defensive partnerships. Though Ukraine has sought to join NATO for years, it's not on the formal track to become a member at any point in the near future. But with an estimated 150,000 troops surrounding Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded that the issue be resolved now.

Putin has complained about NATO's eastward expansion for years, ignoring the ways in which his aggressive behavior has pushed countries like Ukraine closer to the alliance and to the West more generally. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and annexed Crimea, and since that year has supported rebels in a war against Ukrainian forces in the eastern Donbas region. Experts say Putin's bellicose posture toward Ukraine is linked to his broader ambitions of seeing Russia regain the power and influence it enjoyed across the region and beyond during the Soviet-era.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-may-be-forced-to-respond-militarily-if-the-us-wont-agree-to-its-unacceptable-security-demands-on-ukraine/ar-AAU03NC

Putin sounds like the kind of guy who beats his wife then blames her for making him do it.
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Russia says it may be 'forced' to respond militarily if the US won't agree to its unacceptable secur (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 OP
Nuts. C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #1
they may be able to fool the Russian people, but the rest of the world knows JohnSJ Feb 2022 #2
Time to tell Putin to pound sand. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #3
Threatening to blow up a country if he doesn't get what he wants? Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #4
It does. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #5
He is still in the bank with the hostages. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #7
What ever he does will have a blow back. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #8
Yes but he will sell it to the Russian people as a win somehow. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #10
This fear of being invaded is so Russian. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #11
Yes he cannot accept the changing current reality. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #12
So true. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #13
But China is not really interested in just acquiring land or people. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #14
This is correct. China is developing its relatively "empty regions", Ghost Dog Feb 2022 #15
TFG would be handing Ukraine over to Putin on a silver platter, if he'd pulled off his facist coup. Snarkoleptic Feb 2022 #6
In a heartbeat. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #9

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
3. Time to tell Putin to pound sand.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 09:40 PM
Feb 2022

Putin created this mess by not respecting his neighbors.

Who in hell wants to invade Russia except for China.

Putin will demand more and more if not stood
up to.

A bully is a bully..

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
5. It does.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 09:54 PM
Feb 2022

Kind of painted himself into a corner.

A lot of wet paint.

I think he thought NATO would down in the beginning.

Over played his hand.




Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
8. What ever he does will have a blow back.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 11:10 PM
Feb 2022

The pictures of dead people will not be good.

If he backs down he looks weak




Should have stayed in Russia.

Irish_Dem

(47,026 posts)
10. Yes but he will sell it to the Russian people as a win somehow.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 06:58 AM
Feb 2022

The Russians cheat at the Olympics but somehow they are the victims. So they are paranoid like Putin is.

Right, I don't know what Putin's end game is in terms of International reputation.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
11. This fear of being invaded is so Russian.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 11:00 AM
Feb 2022

1941 was a long time ago.

Better look after the border with China.

Irish_Dem

(47,026 posts)
12. Yes he cannot accept the changing current reality.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 11:03 AM
Feb 2022

And yes, he thinks China is his best friend right now.
I would not trust Beijing any further than I can throw it.

Irish_Dem

(47,026 posts)
14. But China is not really interested in just acquiring land or people.
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:29 PM
Feb 2022

It already has a lot of land and too many people. Just more mouths to feed.

They want power, money and status.

Taiwan they want for pride and power purposes.
Because they feel it is a Chinese province taken from them.
And to show the world they have the power to take what they want.

But they tend to seduce countries with money and assistance, all kinds of promises.
They are not like the US and Russia who bomb things to smithereens.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
15. This is correct. China is developing its relatively "empty regions",
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 02:37 PM
Feb 2022

and the rest of its economy, intelligently:

... Noting that most of China's data centers are distributed in the eastern regions at present, Sun said that shortages of land and energy resources in these regions pose a threat to the sustained development of the data centers.

In contrast, China's western regions are rich in resources, especially renewable energy, and have the potential to nurture the development of data centers and meet the needs of data computing in the eastern regions, Sun said.

"The implementation of the project is conducive to promoting the green development and utilizing green energy in the western regions, and continuously optimizing the energy efficiency of data centers," Sun said.

In the next stage, China will focus on improving the influence of the eight national computing hubs to drive the integrated and coordinated development of data computing across the country...

http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0218/c90000-9959604.html
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