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Related: About this forumRussia sends its soldiers into the meat-grinder without proper equipment and weapons:
From a russian livejournal blogger on behalf of a friend fighting for the Russians in Ukraine:
https://wartranslated.com/russian-35th-combined-arms-army-izyum-is-destroyed-by-its-own-command/
The russian 35th Army (a combined-arms unit) was transferred from the far eastern part of Russia.
They were transferred with only some of their vehicles.
They were told to build trenches, fortifications and shelter, but didn't have enough spades and no pickaxes.
Camping with no shelter in the woods and subjected to constant ukrainian artillery, the trees turned into shrapnel that killed lots of men and damaged many light vehicles.
The elite-forces in the area, the feared and murderous Wagner Group, refused to attack the Ukrainians, saying that they don't get paid enough for THAT kind of job.
From a soldier of the Luhansk People's Republic:
https://wartranslated.com/russian-blogger-who-reported-on-the-35th-army-says-mobilised-d-lpr-militias-died-senselessly/
Most of the soldiers of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic died in the initial phase of the war. The reasons? Poor training, shoddy equipment and bad advice from russian military advisors.
Basically all of the experienced soldiers and officers of the DPR and LPR are dead or in hospital. The militias currently consist of green troops the author derisively calls "mobs".
Also, Russia thought that fighting jihadis in Syria gave them proper 21st century battlefield-experience with modern equipment. Turns out, there is a difference between bombing a few guys armed with assault-rifles and facing an enemy that has artillery, spotter-drones and surface-to-air missiles.
When the war began in February, a mobilization was called in DPR and LPR. People were rounded up, got handed a rifle, no bullet-proof vest, no medicine, no proper winter-clothing and were sent to the frontline. Camping outside in winter, their russian advisors forbid them from making campfires so the ukrainian artillery couldn't spot them.
Russia threw the militias of the DPR and the LPR into the meat-grinder , sacrificed them, in order to spare the soldiers of the russian army for later. And then it turned out that their deaths were in vain because the russian military command squandered every advantage they had.
On a personal side-note, I think there is a racial component to this warfare that we are not fully getting. It seems to me as if the russian army is particularly throwing troops into the meat-grinder that consist of ethnic minorities in Russia: people from the far-eastern provinces, people from Central Asia.
People from impoverished, rural areas far away from rich and beautiful, urbanized western Russia.
People, nobody in Moscow and St. Petersburg thinks or cares about.
Just some country-bumpkins nobody will miss.
cbabe
(3,551 posts)Taking the kings shilling to fight his war. Canon fodder indeed.
during iraq, families had to raise money for the soldiers to have the right safety equipment
Bucky
(54,084 posts)That last line in the post is just devastating. It boggles my mind that a modern military could be that dysfunctional 3 months after discovering that they were unprepared for this fight. This is WW1 levels of ineptitude.
I suppose this is what happens when you let an ethos of corruption and gangsterism take over your country. The corruption, like soiled diapers, just trickles down
Metaphorical
(1,604 posts)The Eastern Oblasts (Russian and Ukranian provinces) were protesting against Putin even before the war began, especially those closest to China and the Pacific Rim. My prediction is that Russia is going to collapse East to West, as the Eastern provinces decide that they are better off in the Chinese orbit than being commanded by Moscow (It's more than 6400 km (4000 miles) from Moscow to Kamchatka).
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)In northeastern Russia, there is no real border between Russia and China. Just vast open grassy plains upon which horses and sheep are raised by farmers.
About 10 years ago I read an article that each year 100,000 Chinese are illegally coming into Russia's outermost eastern corner to look for a better life. (Because while China is overpopulated, you can easily get some land in Russia and become a farmer.)
Russia knows about these immigrants and does nothing about them, because Russia needs additional population in that corner of the country.
But...
100,000 immigrants per year, over the course of let's say 20 years. That's 2 million citizens with cultural roots in China and no loyalty to the russian government and its obsession with Europe.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)Is that the Russians will eventually figure shit out, so we shouldn't get to smug or comfortable with their current failures in Ukraine. The question is will the population tolerate the casualties.