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(61,383 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 09:41 AM Feb 12

Trump's incendiary NATO remarks send very real shudders through Europe

Source: CNN

Trump’s incendiary NATO remarks send very real shudders through Europe

Analysis by Nick Paton Walsh, CNN
6 minute read
Published 8:37 AM EST, Mon February 12, 2024

London (CNN) — Remarks by Donald Trump normally reverberate in an echo chamber of his own creation, a sort of vacuum that often strips them of any consequence globally. It is white noise, one might think – rhetoric designed to project strength and the rejection of the status-quo, rather than an expression of any actual policy. It is just Trump being Trump.

But when the former president suggested on Saturday that he would let Russia do “whatever the hell they want” to any NATO member that doesn’t meet spending guidelines, the impact was acute.

He recalled what he said was a conversation with a “large” NATO ally – it was unclear who he was referring to or when the conversation took place – which, according to his telling, had declined to spend the 2% recommended equivalent of their GDP on defense, but nevertheless wanted assurances from the US that they would be protected if Russia attacked. Trump said he would not give such an assurance, as the ally was “delinquent,” and Russian President Vladimir Putin should feel free to have his way.

Trump’s opinion of NATO has been known for years – he thinks it is the epitome of everything he despises about of America’s allies, taking advantage of US strength without giving anything in return: a store loyalty club in which you get points without proportionate spending.


Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/12/europe/trump-nato-putin-europe-analysis-intl/index.html

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Wild blueberry

(6,460 posts)
3. Doing his Master's bidding
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 11:54 AM
Feb 12

Did Tucker return with new instructions?
However, with TSF's increasing mental collapse, he can't hide anything anymore, can't remember his lies, it's all out there even more unfiltered.


(16,954 posts)
5. Some reports suggest that there is no proof such a conversation ever took place...
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 03:44 PM
Feb 12

...and of course the fact-checkers already verify that Trump lies and lies frequently.


(89,737 posts)
7. It's what he plans to do. Doen't matter if the conversation took place in his head -- he's telling us
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 04:37 PM
Feb 12


(61,383 posts)
8. Even if it didn't happen exactly that way, it's not far from what he did in office.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 04:46 PM
Feb 12

He treated the aspirational 2% of GDP goal as membership dues.
Next time around, they will be protection payments.

In office, he tried to shake down Ukraine and suggested
doing the same with allies in Asia. Now he is openly
threatening Europe.


(16,609 posts)
9. we have been patching up our relationships with alies that we have developed
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 04:48 PM
Feb 12

since ww2. along comes this idiot and wrecks everything . and biden/harris has done a great job. now thie idiot has done it again . he only thinks of himself and no one else .


(1,162 posts)
10. He has the bullhorn as if he was President
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 05:23 PM
Feb 12

so something has to be done to stop this megaphone.
He is not king. He is not president.


(5,069 posts)
12. I'm just waiting for some advanced Euro/NATO country
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 01:10 AM
Feb 13

to declare the USA as harboring TBFM (Terrorists Bad For Humanity) and send in their own covert operation, say a Norwegian Seal Team 6, to 'deal with' the head bad guy honcho mafia boss, Trump.

Good plot for a future movie, but reality says it can't happen.

I have an overactive imagination. Can't help it, I'm cursed with it!

Now excuse me . . . got to find my Olivetti typewriter and paper, and write the novel on this very topic.
Bound to make me rich, some movie studio will buy it as the basis for a script!


(142,985 posts)
13. President Biden just slammed Donald Trump's request for Russia to invade our NATO allies
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:06 PM
Feb 13

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I am so glad that President Biden is calling TFG out for this act of treason

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